....of someone else's function is not acceptable or legal behavior. Especially if said people seek to surpass the riots and mob destruction of past episodes.

Don't like it? Too bad. Threatening people usually gets a response.

But tiberius, you're an unmitigated, unqualified and abundantly self-evident moronic ass of the lowest possible order. A failed former mayor and governor of one of the least populous states in the nation who's been serving for all of 18 or so months has more experience than a man who's been senator for nearly 4 years, in elected office for nearly 13 years, and has run one of the tightest and most brilliant political campaigns in history, and who defeated the mighty Clinton machine? What are you, recovering from your third lobotomy?

Seriously, shouldn't you be devoting your very, very limited mental resources towards something more suitable, like solving that age-old intewectuwal diwemma: toilet seat--up or down?

You're not Steve Doucey, are you?

It seems to me that the discussion has two sides: (1) the particular group called the RNCWC that apparently was advocating violence, and (2) the justification for police activity directed at nonviolent groups, such as the ones Glenn is talking about in his post. Concerning (1), I'll take other people's word for it that this particular group was indeed advocating violence and that some form of police response was appropriate. If that's not the case, I'll revise my view. But it seems to me that the real question is about (2). At least, that's what Glenn has talked a lot about in his post, so it deserves comment. What are your views there?

Believe it or not, advocating the physical disruption....

....of someone else's function is not acceptable or legal behavior.

Believe it or now - and who won't believe it? - you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Even "advocating" violent revolution -- let alone "advocating the physical disruption of someone's event" -- is protected First Amendment activity and isn't the slightest bit illegal and can't be.

Squint your eyes really tight, try reading this, and then have someone explain to you what it means:

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=395&invol=444

On top of that, most of the people targeted have nothing to do with the group "advocating disruption," so your defense of the Police's behavior isn't only based on total ignorance but also outright lying.

Really, there isn't. You're (presumably) as human as the rest of us.

you're right. people coming over the canada border have never posed a threat to the USA.

Sarcasm included. -- tiberius

Hey, you're the one talking about 'borders' and 'security'. Don't blame us if the only logical conclusion from is you're paranoid.

Seriously. If you don't believe what you wrote, just admit it. Unlike you're fellow travelers on the fringe right, our sense of humor is perfectly intact.

If, on the other hand, you do believe it...well, here's hoping you get help before you kill someone in a fit of paranoid fury.

Funny you should mention Doocy. He was a friend of a friend when I was an undergrad. You should have heard my wife last night when Jon Stewart played the clip of Doocy saying Palin has foreign policy experience because Alaska is so close to Russia. I thought she would die laughing.

Gotta find some time to dig through the old party pictures. Bet I have some really funny ones with Doocy in them...

The best way to show scorn, derision and contempt for the RNC and everything the Republican party represents, is to ignore their convention altogether.

Still got that "glimmer of hope" Glenn?

That Salon and their 37 friends try to blow up to be a war crime or the coming Martial Law.

The I-Witness blogs don't post any times for when their house was surrounded.

Were they detained in their house at the same time as the other raids were taking place? To keep them from filming those raids?

What are you, recovering from your third lobotomy?...kovie...

I dont think we can conclude there was ever any recovery.

This is a small time almost non issue That Salon and their 37 friends try to blow up to be a war crime or the coming Martial Law.

Does that make this behavior acceptable, yes or no?

Simple enough question. Should be easy enough to answer.

Let's hear it, CvR.

coming Martial Law.

-- Cat vs. Roomba

Already here which you would know if you hadn't already been drinking from the big metal tub....

obama wouldn't have gotten beyond Iowa if he wasn't black and if clinton hadn't been overconfident. he was a do nothing part of the chicago political machine and a go along senator for a miniscule part of his time there before he started running for President which really was immediately.

you aren't angry at me. you're angry at yourself for being so badly taken in and realizing how easily McCain is going to take it away.

See ya kovie.

If people are doing something illegal and the police come to their house to arrest the people and sieze evidence related to the crime they need to have a search warrant and they need to charge the people they arrest with the crime(s) they are alleged to have committed. And the items listed in the search warrant have to have something to do with the crime.

Hence, if what you said was true (and Glenn rather decisively pointed out what was shooting from what part of your anatomy) the police would have arrested the occupants of the houses with something like 'conspiring to physically disrupt someone's meeting'.

Based upon the accounts we have, what happened instead was similar to what happens in the country that used to be known as Burma, when citizens try to talk about Forbidden Subjects.

Of course, there are always puppy dogs willing to lick the boots that kick down the doors. Good boy, Shooter!

Unbelievable. If the Democrats had brains, they'd make political hay of this.

I am not saying this is legal or acceptable behavior. I am simply saying, no one should be astonished that the cops are going after this RNC Welcoming Committee. Any intellignet person would stay as far away as possible from affiliating with a group like the RNCWC (or ELF for that matter) if they want to avoid getting seriously fucked with by cops. Again, these are just facts of how our government now functions: preemptively, unlawfully, and violently in the name of national security.

As for these other groups getting raided, that deserves the largest public protest at the convention. People should start organizing immediately and continue blogging and emailing relentlessly to publicly protest the police raids on advocacy groups who have NOTHING TO DO WITH RNCWC OR VIOLENCE. The commenter who proclaimed the Gestapo is here and now is absolutely right.

It may be illegal to raid or arrest those advocating violent activity, but it will be a hard sell through the MSM and will make legitimate nonviolent advocacy groups look bad if undue effort is put into publicly defending the RNCWC's plans. Let their lawyers defend their rights. They ARE the fringe.