I'm referring to the media's biased treatment of Hillary Clinton, not Maddow's role in it.

Then I've got quite a dog story about Cecil, our rescue dog from New Orleans. Don't tempt me...

You're putting words into Grassley's mouth that he didn't actually say and then demanding to know why I didn't challenge them. He didn't say that there has been "aggressive oversight" of Bush under the Democratic Congress. He said there has been more oversight lately -- which is true, since at least Democrats hold hearings, even though they never go anywhere, and he wondered if it would be "as aggressive" under a Democratic President

-Glenn Greenwald

I pasted his words in my comment just as they were spoken. The senator said and i quote

"if we have an Obama presidency - we're surely going to have a Democratic Congress - are they going to be as aggressive in oversight of the new administration as they are of a Republican administration?"

That implies that "aggressive oversight" is being done to the Republican administration. Are you staisfied with this oversight Glenn? You think that hearing that "never go anywhere" should be considered "aggressive oversight" by our Senators?

IMHO we as citizens should demand a whole hell of a lot more. Your question of the past republican congress did nothing to address this obviously flawed view of "aggressive oversight" and instead pits Dems vs. Reps. What's the goal here, a Congress that respects its laws or finger pointing on who sucks more and when?

The senator not mentioning the failures of the past congress is not nearly as important as his failure to understand the term "aggressive oversight".

Glenn, how'd you get them to Brazil? Does Brazil not have the draconian quarantine rules I thought were pretty standard?

It was actually amazingly easy, and nothing is easy in Brazil. Just a couple of veterinarian's certificates that they had various vaccines and they went right through immigration and customs - not even an hour of quarantine.

I more or less declined a position in (at the time) W. Germany because my Golden would've had to endure something on the order of 6 months quarantine.

Good to hear. I'd sooner work at TNR than allow someone to quarantine my dogs even for 6 days, let alone 6 months. I think the cross-border dog rules have really liberalized in most places as people now move more commonly.

... at those who haven't yet, as they say, gotten over it re: Maddow's handling of the Hillbama wars.

msnbc -- including consummate journalist Rachel Maddow -- absolutely savaged Hillary Clinton throughout the primaries, but for some reason that's the one media critique that's off the table (to be fair, I recall you mentioned it once, in the post where you slammed Bill Clinton for comparing Obama's candidacy to Jesse Jackson's).

Heaven forbid someone critique media or political figures when all they did was propagate lies about a major Democratic candidate a whole three months ago!

Boy, you really have to be some foil-hatted wacko in a cave somewhere to reach back that far for such trivialities as media dishonesty during the current election season.

Somerby has a good word for people who propelled RFK-gate -- liars -- or, rather, in the Howler's incomprably discreet way, people who were "not telling the truth."

http://dailyhowler.com/dh061008.shtml

Thank goodness Maddow reserved her lying for the one Democratic political figure who is beneath contempt, the one whom "liberal" bloggers like John Cole mocked for "playing the victim card" for defending herself against completely manufactured allegations.

I am chagrined for bringing it up.

*Gulp*

Nick you are right on man. The reason the 60's was the most turbulent period in recent history. Is because for the first time large number of Americans got involved in the political process. This was a direct threat to the power of the "establishment", and it needed to be put down hard. Which it was. The assassinations of Black panthers, the infiltrations of peace groups etc. The whole COINTELPRO thing. Which we see being revived right now. All the undercover police officers infiltrating anti-war and peace groups. Most Americans don't even know what COINTELPRO was. Those that don't know their history are doomed to repeat it.

@Maturity, I don't believe you were ever a democrat. But if watching Fox Noise channel turned you into John McCain republican, demonstrates the power of propaganda. You've been brainwashed, enjoy 4 more years of the same if McCain gets elected.

The TNR argument proves that certain people can't see past the end of their noses. Noses that are often up the ass of a good Democrat, say Joe Lieberman.

I will say that it takes balls to be this myopically stupid.

McCain isn't scarier to me than any other Republican who would be running. I think Republicans in the 21st century tend to be more functionaries of their party, than leaders of it. W's ascent to power seems more like a Jack in the Beanstalk story, as he was basically recruited for his charm and the fact that he was born without a soul.

The big brains, like Nixon and Bush 1 (and when you really think of it, their public personality had more in tune with Dukakis than with Reagan) have permanently retired leaving the game to be fronted by shucking and jiving ambitious but intellectually average 'real men' types.

Glenn, how'd you get them to Brazil? Does Brazil not have the draconian quarantine rules I thought were pretty standard?

I more or less declined a position in (at the time) W. Germany because my Golden would've had to endure something on the order of 6 months quarantine.

And this article finds a way to get even worse... Please Glenn, for the sake of your non-liberal audience, stay far far away from the left-right false dichotomy.

Hint, hint, Glenn. Still trying to guess the breeds. You can still comment in the previous thread, you know. Okay. Okay. I'm being just awful. Couldn't resist. I'll stop.

You're like a drug dealer at the playground luring me to talk about this. 3 out of the 4 are just mutts found from shelters or the street. Only 1 is a "pure breed" who was purchased, and he's just an ordinary lab. When I say "2 are American and 2 Brazilians," I'm just referring to where they were born and adopted, not their exotic breed (Border Collies and Australian Shepards are both awesome).