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http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/05/anthrax/permalink/999b4249184744e893f585f78c847c13.html
Shorter link to same letter with too much info:
http://tiny.cc/FuT2h
Clutch Cargo! You are an investigator! A bit brash, tho.
;-)
The extra time Ivins spent in Suite B3 after hours is very interesting, particularly as it started in mid-August. Still, he did less than 15 extra hours that month. And if Ivins really believed, as many others did, that Al Quaeda might have anthrax, surely that would explain his late nights in the lab after 9-11.
Perhaps his colleagues and family might have some idea why he was doing the extra hours. The FBI said he was not able to give them a credible reason, but I haven't yet seen any more detail on that. It is all still very circumstantial.
We are told that Ivins was "under pressure to assist a private company that had lost federal approval to produce an anthrax vaccine". Might not that pressure explain the extra hours?
Get a nym!
From WaPoo:
Ivins explained his longer shifts by telling investigators that he retreated to the lab "to escape" from problems at home, Dellafera said in his affidavit.
Why is that not credible, given the other evidence of his depressed state?
To bad Rep. Rush Holt is so damn worthless, next to Ms. do-nothing Nancy.
Character assignation 101 – the hallmark of the Bush administration and all its cohorts and a dubious, criminally complacent Dem congress. It already sounds like such a VAST stretch of the imagination, the FBI - professional piece of nothing that they are under Mr. Robert Mueller moves to produce crap.
Move over Gonzales, we have another driftwood Brownie like non-actor here, waiting for dismissal. I can’t believe this crap. This is so completely bogus a bunch of hearsay that even a half-baked judge would be royally freaking piss-off by now - it is all Circumstantial Evidence - that has been cooked up to close the case, they waited for Ivins to died to be able to pin this bunch of BS shit on him.
Is the worthless Rep. Rush Holt going to ask for more info - DO SOMETHING but somehow, I bet not, how very Nancy Pelosi of our criminal complacent congressman Mr. Holt. If you see circumstantial evidence - just hide, dude, isn't that what they do best? It is what all Dem congress members do, right - they hide from responsible, can be standing-up for what is left of Mr. Ivins family. Mr. Holt is as criminal as most torturous ranks of Bush administration.
Mr. Holt, have you embraced your criminal complacent act today becaue it sounds like you have, just go home and eat dinner, I'm sure Mr. Holt has to get to it?
Also, it would be interesting to look at a longer time line to see if he had stayed late in prior years.
This bothered me too. It seemed they were being very selective and specific in their review. I think looking at habits over a longer period of time would have been more informative. From, at minimum, the time period when he first began having noticeable problems.
Might that have been a bit too informative? I'm no expert, but I wouldn't think it would be too hard to find that out.
In addition, searches of Dr. Ivins’s home in Frederick, Md., turned up “hundreds” of similar letters that had not yet been sent to media outlets and members of Congress, people who were briefed by the F.B.I. on Wednesday said.
They found a box of envelopes.
From Wikipedia (though lacking a source on at least one part):
Overdose of acetaminophen is serious and can be fatal from liver toxicity, killing about 12% of those who seek treatment due to the delayed effects.[citation needed] Often the patient may not even experience symptoms for up to 24-48 hours. Typical symptoms after this period range from nausea, malaise to extreme upper abdominal pain in the region of the liver. In heavy drinkers, regular use of acetaminophen increases liver damage from alcohol.
Acetaminophen toxicity is the most common cause of acute liver failure in the United States,[4] accounting for 39% of cases. It occurs both after attempted suicide by overdose and after unintentional overdoses.[6] In some susceptible people, even small doses, combined with small amounts of alcohol, have caused irreversible liver failure.[citation needed]
Acetaminophen can cause kidney failure in vulnerable persons. These include alcoholics, elderly men, and persons with pre-existing liver or kidney damage.
Of course that does not address the codeine part, but I would agree that given some of the details from his recent emails regarding substance abuse - he was probably drinking heavily as well thus compounding the effect of the acetaminophen and codeine, and possibly the SSRI he was on too. One could rationally think though, that in the presence of a large amount of acetaminophen in his blood and the occurrence of liver failure as a cause of death that the tylenol #3 would be named as the substance which caused it by any medical examiner.
Unfortunately this in addition to the lack of a note makes me wonder what led them to the conclusion that this was a suicide at all?
I'm reading at Smoking Gun, and there's funny stuff. They link Ivins to a Baptist school with the name of Greendale because the Ivins might have read a newsletter from and org they belonged to in 1998 which had a story about this Greendale Baptist Academy, a Wisconsin school, having some troubles with a fourth grader. That's it. Nothing about the central New Jersey return address zip codes, nada.
Look also for the "killer drive." Hilarious.
And he picks on NBC because of that reporter? B.S. Why did he pick on the National Enquierer too? Or the New York Post?
Yeah, we know the power of STRONG gossip, but it still gossip.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/washingtonpostinvestigations/2008/08/a_strong_circumstantial_case.html
All based on circumstantial evidence. Jeebus.
It is still heresay, it still BS, however stong the BS wants to be. We sure wouldn't want to mess it up with any FACTS in the kind of non-news society we have today's worthless media world, would we.