Gosh, this just gets more and more complex.

It does if you've been paying attention to the technical discussions going on here.

If on the other hand, you just prefer Occum's Razor and want to swallow the increasingly-implausible line from the FBI, please go ahead.

Just be careful you don't cut your head off in the process.

Glen, thanks for your consistently good articles. Through the links at lewrockwell.com, I read every article, with fervor, that comes by with your name attached. Your work is well thought out and to the point. Keep up the great work.

Steve Grycel

Charleston, SC

http://tinyurl.com/6pxd2c

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On October 17, 2001, Richard Spertzel went on the McNeil-Lehrer Newshour and speculated that: (1) Iraq was behind the anthrax attacks; (2) Iraq was also working with Osama bin Laden on 9/11; and (3) the anthrax attacks were linked to 9/11. You can read the transcript yourself at: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/health/july-dec01/anthraxgi_10-17.html

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Spertzel may be right that 9/11 and the 9/11 anthrax attacks were closely linked. In fact, they may have been committed by the same conspirators. Certainly they were bundled together as a unit by the neoconservatives who exploited them to drive the United States into attacking and occupying Iraq.

Again, they are attempting to make the "profile" fit the suspect ... this is "assumption of guilt" and why it must be avoided like the plague (no pun intended) -- imho, it's part of the danger of FISA data trawling ... the "facts" are then selectively fitted around the dominant paradigm or theory ... how did Tony Blair and company put it??? Same blinking, ER, blinkered problem ....

-- susan sunflower

With all the innocent men and women that have been convicted here in prison USA, people still want to know "what are you hiding" when you talk to them about the government spying on citizens.

Certainly they were bundled together as a unit by the neoconservatives who exploited them to drive the United States into attacking and occupying Iraq.

Bundled they were. Agreed on that point.

The question that government investigations do not want to touch is "who was the primary beneficiary" of these attacks. Perhaps the primary beneficiary did not do it, but should not all that benefited be investigated thoroughly?

I have watched government investigations since JFK/MLK/RFK and it is always the same. Pin it on a "lone nut" and go home. Only in the 9-11 towers do we see deviation from the lone nut theory of history; and we move to lone nut with small following of crazed followers ready to do anything for Mr. Nut. (or, lone Nut with Cult)

The main selling point is that everyone says a government conspiracy could not happen because they can not imagine it. I though that good detective work required following all leads and theories no matter how unbelievable to the detective the idea might be. I also thought that "trying the case in the press" was bad form if one wanted to find the truth of the matter; and that it was "unAmerican" anyway. Ah, the myths of youth.

PS: Oklahoma City was just a lone nut with a buddy; a twist on the theme to keep the rating up

I knew they couldn't hold you!

-- Derbig Mooser

McMurphy's got nothing on me, Chief! I'm just some kook without a website.

It is frustrating to see the MSM tidily wrapping up this case when it's so full of holes, but what can we do?

Many have suggested that among the other suspects, those Camel Club members seem most likely considering motive and opportunity. So why not track them down? With the resources at our disposal surely we can find them.

And then what? You can send the info to the MSM which will do nothing, or you can show it here which will do little, or you can send it to the local papers in their hometowns. Those papers have reporters with reputations to make who are probably willing to do a little reporting work while the MSM is sitting around repeating rumors from anonymous sources.

The two names given in the Salon article (link at sig) are Marian Rippy and Phil Zack. Can we find where they are now?

Some cautions: There are undoubtedly several Americans with those names, so it's important to make sure you've found the ex-Detrick people and not someone else. And no stakeouts or anything like that which would turn this into harrassment.

I think it's worth doing.

Thanks a heap for the transcription!

BTW - I found this interesting -

"Q: And, we don’t have those tapes physically today, is that correct?

A: Um, the FBI does.

Q: And why do they have those tapes?

A: Um, because they need to enter it into evidence for the grand jury hearing."

How does the FBI tie 2008 rants with a 2001 crime?

Available via dailykos -

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/8/5/231824/6344/136/563292

or signature.

One day in March, when Ivins was at a Frederick mall with his wife and son, the agents confronted the researcher and said, "You killed a bunch of people." Then they turned to his wife and said, "Do you know he killed people?" according to the scientist.

The same week, Ivins angrily told a former colleague that he suspected his therapist was cooperating with the FBI. On March 19, police were called to Ivins's home and found him unconscious. He was evaluated at Frederick Memorial Hospital.

Seems to me to be a deliberate attempt to break Ivins. Ivins must have felt really isolated - unable to even trust his therapist. FBI = Federal Bungling Intimidators. I wonder which TV show they picked their methods from.

WaPo article linked in signature.

Maybe we could call it psychological waterboarding.

Step 1) Investigate a suspect in such a way that he feels that is being persecuted, his family threatened, therapist/spies planted, accused of murder.

Step 2) Continue pressure until suspect begins to crack, i.e., paranoia, subtance abuse, etc.

Step 3) Use dumb therapist to document said cracking. Suggest making it public record by having FBI handler file a protective order.

Step 4) After defendant kills self, use evidence created by your investigation techniques to bootstrap claim that suspect was deranged crackpot, without acknowledging your role in cracking said pot.

Step 5) Close case!