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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Well that is a guess on my part. Of course everyone now denies and lies. One problem, those interviewed in the book were recorded. Hope Suskind has multiple copies and bodyguards. Below excerpts is link to Suskind appearance on Countdown. (see sig)
AP, WASHINGTON - Two former CIA officers Tuesday denied that they or the spy agency faked an Iraqi intelligence document purporting to link Saddam Hussein with 9/11 bomber Mohammed Atta, as they are quoted as saying in a new book.The White House issued the statement on behalf of the former officials after a day of adamant denials from the CIA and Bush administration about the claim, made in "The Way of the World," a book by Washington-based journalist Ron Suskind.
"I never received direction from George Tenet or anyone else in my chain of command to fabricate a document ... as outlined in Mr. Suskind's book," said Robert Richer, the CIA's former deputy director of clandestine operations.
Richer also said he talked Tuesday to John Maguire, who headed the CIA's Iraq Operations Group at the time and who gave Richer "permission to state the following on his behalf: `I never received any instruction from then Chief/NE Rob Richer or any other officer in my chain of command instructing me to fabricate such a letter. Further, I have no knowledge to the origins of the letter and as to how it circulated in Iraq," the statement said.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080805/ap_on_go_pr_wh/white_house_iraq
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/#26045433
Dear Paul,
I've been trying to find some reason why Ivins would want to kill the photo editor at the National Enquirer. Couldn't find any.
http://www.depresident.com/gallery/overflow/Drunk_Jenna_Bush.jpg
Why do I believe the idea of Ivins as being the anthrax killer is a bunch of hooey? Many reasons, but primarily because the way this story is developing feels just like the way the Iraq War was sold - sensational leaks, repeated by gullible reporters, and growing hoopla despite the way that a calm skepticism allows one to see that there is "no there there." People are working way too hard to get me to believe something that makes no sense.
At this point, I'm unwilling to even accept that he did, in fact, commit suicide, though even stories covering the questions about the case treat that as fact. I believe he's dead, and probably from an overdose of pills. Have we got conclusive evidence about how those pills got into his system? I hate to sound like such a tin-foil-hat guy, but do we?
Glen, did you hear the story on All Things Considered this afternoon about the Ivins case? The correspondent ended his story by saying in a solemn tone that when Ivins was in high school, he was cast in the school play, which was a murder mystery, to play -- THE MURDERER! So help me God, "character" evidence has come to this. You just can't make this sh*t up.
(not sure this hasn't been posted before)
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Colonel-Anderson-Refutes-F-by-George-Washington-080805-300.html
""Col. Anderson says Dr. Ivins told him about the lapse in safety shortly after it occurred, contradicting Army findings in 2002 that Dr. Ivins had told no one."
Or any of your friends? I am wondering whether or not there was a BBC-Urdu piece on Aafia Siddiqui in the last few days. There is a claim of one, which makes a complete 180 compared to the one appearing in U.S. publications. BBC (English) did not have one as of this morning.
TIA
I've been bothered by the notion that Ivins was some kind of heavy drinker and was taking prescription Tylenol (3?) for pain relief.
He shouldn't have been taking it, should he? If his liver was already damaged from alcohol, how much Tylenol (and Codeine?) would it take to put him into liver collapse?
Couldn't he have taken a lethal dose by accident rather than design? Apart from the toxicology report, what other indications are there that he killed himself?
Seems to me, from the chaotic nature of the leaks and the absurdity of so much of the "information" contained therein, there was no intention of charging Ivins any time soon, but maybe they would have tried some sort of splashy arrest and perpwalk closer to November just for show. Some of the information about the abusive nature of the investigation would certainly give rise to anger and resentment (to say the least). But the reports seem to indicate a complete personality transformation, but only in the context of his "theripy", if such there was.
Could it have been drug-induced? Or did this transformation occur at all?
I do not believe science will identify the laboratory or country from which the present anthrax spores are derived.
Date: December 5, 2001
In testimony before the House Committee on International Relations
Give up?
Richard Spertzel
This guy is really starting to freak me out.
Remember, he also told the Washington Post that there are only four or five people on earth who know how to make that material and he's one of them.
BBC now does have two stories both of which are highly skeptical of the FBI version which is swallowed whole by CNN and NYT. But it is nowhere near what was claimed to have been said in the Urdu version. So still wondering.
I'm not sure why this story has grabbed me so (that's not actually true, I do know why.. Because it seems so conveniently contrived, to put it in a nutshell.. I haven't read a single thing that would lead me to believe that Ivins is the culprit. Porn and sororities, patents, give me a break. How about something that could be construed as a MOTIVE???)
Anyway, I do hope that Glenn will keep at it. It stinks on so many levels, there has got to be a pony there somewhere in that pile of shit. This could very well be the moment when the pack of lies collap... Sorry, I was about to make a reference to the twin towers. Forget I said it.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
Salon headlines in your mailbox
