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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 12:00 AM

The FBI's emerging, leaking case against Ivins

The more revelations there are in the Bruce Ivins case, the more questions there are.

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 04:36 PM

verry interesting

Are we sure this was a suicide?

Who tells us it was?

Let's think of the timing: if someone in some high office would like the FBI to draw out this investigation for a good long time so that evidence disappears... but finish the investigation before their term ends...that would be convenient, no?

Who might benefit from manipulating the investigation just so?

But of course they're not impotent, and their aides might be a little careless... so things like advice about Cipro might leak out...

And if the intent is to ensure that we go to war with Iraq, linking Iraq with WMD... that would take some time to plan and execute, right? Certainly more than a week, no?

Which person in government would have the experience, the position of authority, and the demonstrated inclinations to perpetrate this act?

I wonder...

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 04:38 PM

From the AP article...

"Social worker Jean Duley testified at a court hearing in Frederick on July 24 in a successful bid for a protective order from Ivins - who five days later committed suicide - that he "actually attempted to murder several other people."

- What is required for a successful protective order? If she met the standard why was he not arrested immediately? I would think attempted murder was reason enough.

Ivins took a fatal dose of Tylenol as federal authorities monitored his movements and prepared to charge him with the murder of five people who died from anthrax poisonining in the weeks after the Sept. 2001 terror attacks.

- If he had anthrax why did he use Tylenol to kill himself? Very strange..

An audio recording of the court session was obtained by The New York Times and posted it on its Web site.

- Has anyone found this audio?

"As far back as the year 2000, the respondent has actually attempted to murder several other people, either through poisoning. He is a revenge killer. When he feels that he's been slighted or has had - especially toward women - he plots and actually tries to carry out revenge killings," Duley said.

- again, if he was really that much of a danger why was he not arrested before?

This whole is just too bizarre.

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 04:40 PM

Set a fire and get paid to put it out? Was that the original motive?

Great work, Glenn. Honestly, I've been quietly fuming about this for years. This last bit is just too much, though.

As far as this:

Does the fact that some of the letters were sent from Princeton NJ mean anything to you in light of this - or is it worthless coincidence?

http://www.battelleventures.com/

Battelle Ventures LP

Battelle is the $220 million, Princeton, N.J.-based Battelle Ventures fund's sole limited partner and Eastern Tennessee business leaders back the $35 million, Knoxville, Tenn.-based IVP fund.

Yikes! is the first thought that comes to mind. Actually, what has been always bothersome is how the anthrax was transported to the mailbox from the lab where the letters were loaded. (No "Q" samples on the envelope or tape points to a clean lab loading of the letters). No idea there.

However, if I was the FBI I'd at least want to interview every single person affiliated with Battelle Ventures, NJ, and see what their travel schedules were on the 9th and the 18th. As far as "Eastern Tennesse business leaders?" Ummm... Oak Ridge Tennessee, the massive nuclear research/production facility operated by a joint public-private partnership between Battelle and the University of Texas? The region's federal pork chop, the DOE gift that keeps on giving? Oh dear... and that's where Richard Lambert went after playing his role from 2002-2006 as head of Amerithrax...

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/jul/26/knoxville-fbi-division-looks-back/

"Over the past century, the FBI has evolved and adapted to meet an ever-changing array of threats to our nation's security," said Richard Lambert, special agent in charge of the Knoxville division. "As we begin our second century of service, the FBI remains committed to upholding our mission of protecting America's freedoms."

We can also note that a Bechtel spinoff, the Bechtel Jacobs Co., is the DOE contractor for environmental management at Oak Ridge, which is also pulling in its fair share of new Project Bioshield and Homeland Security contracts. Coincidence?

I don't know. I really have no idea. Where's the FBI? Right.

What I do know is the background. Laurie Garrett, well-known medical science writer, wrote this in her book "Betrayal of Trust: The Collapse of Global Public Health (2000)", in the BioWar chapter:

"Among recent events that had escalated U.S., European, and United Nations concerns about biological weapons were UN inspector's findings in Iraq, recent innovations in biotechnology that streamlined genetic manipulation of microbes, elucidation of the scope of Russia's Biopreparat program, and evidence that some of its former scientists may have moved their expertise and products onto the international arms market. Though most of these elements for concern had been known to experts before, it was only in 1997 that the full picture- the sense of threat- coalesced in Western military, intelligence and some scientific circles."

Laurie Garrett then speculates abut rogue states and cults - but now, amazingly enough, it is clear that the first modern bioterror attack has been carried out by individuals associated with our own "biodefense" program - probably not Ivins or Hatfill, the FBI's "people of interest."

On a side note, the FBI has just now taken over the investigation of my sort-of-nearby neighbor's firebombed house, by the way. Interesting, huh? I'm trying to keep my paranoia in check, tho. Battelle Ventures. Right. Hi-G-Tek. Active RFID spy chips. Great. Better go cut down those pot plants, I guess. Keep up the good work, anyway.

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 04:46 PM

Anthrax investigation: A letter from a Bruce Ivins co-worker

There goes the money/profit motive propaganda meme cooked up by the framers:

http://tinyurl.com/5lohmy

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From 1992 to 1994, I worked with Bruce Ivins at Ft. Detrick, Md., where he helped me develop anthrax vaccines during my postdoctoral research. Ivins is accused of performing the 2001 anthrax attacks so he could profit from a vaccine he patented. This accusation is preposterous. The government routinely patents work that might eventually be marketable, and these products almost never become developed or sold. Even if one of his vaccines had been mass-produced, the primary beneficiaries would have been the producer and the government, not Bruce. I never heard Bruce talk about money or getting rich. His life was about the work that he loved and the people he loved.

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