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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 12:00 AM

The FBI's emerging, leaking case against Ivins

The more revelations there are in the Bruce Ivins case, the more questions there are.

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Tuesday, August 5, 2008 02:28 PM

Omooex

Point taken.

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 02:31 PM

lcr@2:20 PM

Thank you. A well done and very informative post.

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 02:32 PM

Ms Duley pictured in 6/29/2008 FNP Story

Jean Duley is pictured holding a bottle of Suboxone in a Frederick News Post article about prescription drug abuse, at the end of June this year.

The opening paragraph of the article states,

Forty people died of drug overdoses in Frederick County in 2005 and 2006, and just four were deemed intentional suicides, according to autopsy reports reviewed by The Frederick News-Post at the Maryland Office of the Chief Medical Examiner.

How coincidental that she is involved in a case involving alleged suicide by prescription drugs not even a month later...

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 02:32 PM

Related Story

At TPM: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/207172.php

Take My Wife, Please!

We're trying to find out a bit more about the Bikini Beauty Pageant at the Buffalo Chip, where John McCain showed up and offered up wife Cindy as a contestant. ESPN says the event is topless and "occasionally bottomless". Actually their description is worth quoting in full ...

And then you can click the video and watch McCain do it!

Offer up Cindy McCain to a Biker Bar for a topless show.

Now there's class. I knew going to Sturgis would be a coup for McCain! It'll get his campaign off to a "Wet Start"

Or click sig for video of McCain selling wife to bikers.

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 02:32 PM

Sorry 5pm eyes edit

Above, I meant to say "by reason of shared locale in processing?"

If some smell conspiracy then for gods' sakes – complexity please. Give us delicious layer upon layers.

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 02:36 PM

following up on the Suskind book

Think Progress now has this up

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/08/05/suskind-ra-detained/

In the acknowledgments of his new book, Pulitzer-Prize winner Ron Suskind writes that his research assistant was “detained by federal agents” and “interrogated” while on a trip to New York related to the book. Politco’s Mike Allen reports:
Suskind writes in the acknowledgments that his research assistant, Greg Jackson, “was sent to New York on a project for the book” in September 2007 and was “detained by federal agents in Manhattan. He was interrogated and his notes were confiscated, violations of his First and Fourth Amendment rights.” The author provides no further detail.

Boy, I sure am glad Democrats recently voted to expand the powers of the "Terrorist Surveillance Program." No chance it would be abused, or that someone like Suskind would ever be a target for surveillance.

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 02:39 PM

Dr. Irwin willing to swear under oath about Ivins' condition?

Reviewing Duley's Peace Order, this particular segment sticks in my brain:

Dr. David Irwin, his psychiatrist, called him homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions," the document states. "Will testify with other details." (my emphasis)

There's some possible ambiguity here, but it appears Duley is saying that Dr. Irwin told her he would be willing to testify, i.e., swear under oath, that Ivins was "homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions" and had additional detail to back up that diagnosis. Assuming this is a true account of what Irwin told Duley, it places the sensational diagnosis of Ivins' homicidal impulses at Dr. Irwin's door, with Duley just being the messenger. If this was a false account, you would think Dr. Irwin, wherever he may be, would have surfaced by now to deny them and defend his former patient.

For all the outsized attention paid to Duley, it certainly appears that the FBI and Irwin bear most of the onus for the contents of the Peace Order and hence the more outrageous claims in the news leaks. Obviously both parties went out of their way to insure that Duley interpreted Ivins' potentially disturbing behavior - i.e., voicemails perceived as vaguely threatening, possibly belligerent statements and aggressive behavior in group therapy sessions - in the most terrifying way possible.

In clinical terms, they scared the crap out of her.

This may of course also explain the sloppy writing in the Order, but who knows, maybe she just writes like that.

I see Duley more and more as a victim here, not a willing, knowing part of a conspiracy out to frame a dedicated scientist.

Pursue Irwin, take on the FBI. I think it's time to let Duley go.

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 02:45 PM

By the way, I intend this as

the answer to the lyophilizer question

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 02:49 PM

Jean Duley's letters to the editor of the FNP

Link to all at my sig.

Here's a letter from a Jean Duley in Frederick on May 27, 2004, and after reading it a few times, I started getting chills (think FISA, spying...). I wonder if someone thought she was a "person of interest?"

Watch what you write, say and do

Originally published May 27, 2004

Asleep, asleep, asleep -- that is what "Blah, blah, blah" (May 22) is. Most Americans haven't a clue what the Patriot Act involves; if they did they would not like it and be very afraid and outraged. I would hope they would.

He wanted an example of abuse. This is one: Section 215 allows the U.S. Government with no probable cause, not even reasonable grounds to believe that a U.S. citizen is seeking to engage or has engaged in a criminal activity, or any suspicion that the subject of the investigation is working for or is an agent of a foreign power, to investigate someone, based partly on that person just exercising his or her First Amendment right to free speech, i.e., writing a letter to the editor criticizing government policy.

They can access anyone's medical records, library records, track and watch Web site activity and tap phone lines. Anyone served by the government to allow them to do this is prohibited from disclosing this fact to the person.

Normally under the Fourth amendment, the government must show at least cause that the person is believed to have committed a crime or will commit a crime. Not anymore.

So ... watch what you write; watch what you say and do. If you think it can't happen to you, think again. Will you ever know if it does? They don't have to tell you.

If you are not a pure-white, God-fearing, Bush-loving, flag-waving ... well who knows.

JEAN DULEY

Frederick

Tuesday, August 5, 2008 02:53 PM

all smoke and no fire?

Glenn, maybe you want to write a column describing how any of these "action items", these petitions and money bombs and so forth actually achieved something. I can't imagine I'm the only one who's getting a little impatient with these "netroots".

@-- Pope Ratzo

I've been wondering the very same thing (but surely meant Feingold and not Feinstein?) and your post reminded me of a post on Kos (linked from my sig)

Infiltrating the Left-wing and the New Republic

More than fifty years ago the Morgan firm decided to infiltrate the Left-wing political movements in the United States. This was relatively easy to do, since these groups were starved for funds and eager for a voice to reach the people. Wall Street supplied both. The purpose was not to destroy ... or take over but was really threefold: (1) to keep informed about the thinking of Left-wing or liberal groups; (2) to provide them with a mouthpiece so that they could "blow off steam," and (3) to have a final veto on their publicity and possibly on their actions, if they ever went "radical."

I once thought, in my more idealistic days, the internet may be democracy's saviour - it's antibiotic for tyranny, etc. But it could be its undoing. It has become both a dossier of our predilections and way of doing something - without doing anything. If you think the 'progressive wing' of the internet - the netroots is not at all compromised, I've got some dark reality for you to consider.

That would be a worthy topic, GG, what say you? You won't win any friends in high places but what the heck. When the internet is killed because of 'national security' it will be too late.

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