The only hint that Ivins might have been secretly gay was the brother calling him "wussy" and being suprised that Ivin's could ever get married. The nutjob brother based this on Ivin's being a caregiver for their cancer ridden mother. This makes my head spin.

Read his letters to the editor. He was an odd duck and who can really say.

My Heroes:

Chomsky on 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwZ-vIaW6Bc&feature=related

Bill Maher on 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG6rtdQAd-I&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p80hXaM4QgU&feature=related

All Things Considered is doing a story on Ivins as I write this. They say that the FBI will, tomorrow, hold a press conference where they release SOME of the evidence against Ivins. They also report that the FBI is not yet closing the case, but imply that step may take place soon.

One tidbit just reported (see www.npr.org for transcripts, or just listen in to the last hour tonight which will be a repeat) is that NPR contacted the fellow who directed a play that Ivins was in when he was in high school. He cast Ivins as the murderer in this play. I can't find this detail in NPR's reporting available at their site.

You're way behind the times. We've read Ivins' letters in the Frederick News Post AND the articles that Ivins was responding to.

e.g., click on my signature.

Why can the FBI offer someone millions of dollars for their 'testimony' against another?

As I recall many of our 'guests' in Guantanamo are there for similar offers of 'testimony'.

Seems to me that some/many journalists are happy to falsely do something akin to this for far less.

Might Duley accept a lower offer than Ivin's children were offered?

Perhaps testimoney is more appropriate.

"If this is the same guy who composed the note framing jihadists for the anthrax attacks ... and, as Greenwald seems to suspect, and [sic] if he was the same guy who misled ABC into reporting the presence in the anthrax of a substance that only Iraq had used to create biological weapons"

Is that what Glenn suspects? I don't recall getting that impression from Glenn's posts. Did I miss something?

MB (formerly LunaSea)

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/08/05/10809/

WASHINGTON - President Bush committed an impeachable offense by ordering the CIA to to manufacture a false pretense for the Iraq war in the form of a backdated, handwritten document linking Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda, an explosive new book claims.0805 01 1 2

The charge is made in “The Way of the World: A Story of Truth and Hope in an Age of Extremism” by Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Ron Suskind, released today.

Suskind says he spoke on the record with U.S. intelligence officials who stated that Bush was informed unequivocally in January 2003 that Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction. Nonetheless, his book relates, Bush decided to invade Iraq three months later - with the forged letter from the head of Iraqi intelligence to Saddam bolstering the U.S. rationale to go into war. [...]

Yes, it is on-topic. It shows that this administration would stop at nothing to sell the war on Saddam, Iraq, and millions of innocent women and children.

So? Then they could have ordered the anthrax attacks. Would it not beat all if it was a black opp and the FBI knew it could not find the "real" criminals all along.

So Bruce Ivins was found unresponsive at 1:15 AM Sunday. He died on Tuesday. This is consistent with acetaminophen overdose...it shuts your liver down and then you die a few days later. I have to wonder why an intelligent person working in biodefense would choose to commit suicide in such a painful way...

Glenn: great job on this but I feel you will never get to the answer because you probably would not like it.

A few years back a respected Catholic doctor in Norfolk County, MA, committed suicide because he was connected with a computer that had some porn on it. Rather than face the charges, he preferred death.

I think you have to be a Catholic near Ivins age to understand how disgraceful it is for a person to admit to liking porn. Years of priestly preaching about how evil it is makes one never want to be publicly associated with it. I can understand the fear that was put into Ivins, who was a Catholic brought up with the fear, by the FBI as it threatened to expose his secret sexual fantasies to the public. Ivins personal torment must have been immense which caused him to fall into deep depression. The FBI did this to extract a confession from him. More than anything that proves his innocence since he would probably have preferred to confess than to be shamed.

But now everything will be wrapped in a package called Ivins. Ross will come forward and state that Ivins was his source. Who can prove otherwise? The FBI will assert he was the source of the anthrax even though it knows this to be untrue.

One thing that bothers me. The Bush Administration never jumped openly on the story the anthrax came from Iraq. It just let it float around in the public arena. This seems to indicate that Cheney and company knew the source of the anthrax was not from Iraq.

The whole thing is very strange but we owe a lot to Glenn for staying on top of it.

The Sunday Baltimore Sun article told of FBI agents telling Ivins's boyhood neighbors in 2007 that they were conducting a fraud investigation because Ivins had faked his own death.

A Cincinnati paper interviewed someone at the town's historical society about the visits from the FBI.

About a year-and-a-half ago, FBI agents came to the Warren County Historical Society to search for information about Bruce Ivins and his family, said a volunteer with the historical society who asked not to be named.

"They were looking for anything pertaining to them," she said. "They had a report that Bruce had died. They looked through our microfilm and found his father's death notice, but not Bruce's."

(link in my sig)

The FBI were telling people they had a 'report' that Ivins died? And they were ostensibly looking for a 'report' of his death on microfilm at the Lebanon, OH Historical Society?

This is crazy stuff. Or maybe the FBI agents investigating this 'faked death' just believed what their higher-ups had told them and didn't bother to check to see if Ivins was, in fact, dead. (Not unlike the Washington Post reporters and the lyopholizer.) I wonder if anyone took the names of these agents and I wonder just how much these agents knew about the overall Ivins/anthrax 'case.'