And the piece remains a disgrace.

-- LarryE

yeah, Glenn, why cant ya be more like that nice Charlie Rose?

always so polite & well-groomed!

Re the AP correction. Yes, it is hilarious and somehow my witty comment about Ivins staking out the storage facility got chopped off when I hit publish. Oh well.

Good luck with the Holt interview. I agree that he could be one of the best routes to getting some real information.

Just making an observation, Mr. Greanwald.

these guys are so very very low ...

Hopefully they'll pass on the kiddie porn rumors.

through the comments, and now I'm caught up.

For what it's worth, I never seen such substantive commenting as this series of Anthrax-media posts has called forth in its various facets. I'm gonna get eyestrain wading through them all.

It is something to read as Glenns readers use their areas of expertise to tease out ever more information.

Mazel Tov, lox vobiscum!

"But the South started and fought the war anyway, and in due course, got their asses whipped." -- Derbig Mooser

Another factual inaccuracy. You two are full of them. Please use Google and find Ft. Sumner. What state is it in?

Next you will say that Grenada stated that war by vertue of its geographical location. My God! Look, where they put there land! Invade! (and so Mr. Ray-gun did)

No war is a "good war". None.

As you wish.

Too bad someone always shows up to disrupt threads that you start that shows the central government's actions for what they are. Someone asked if it is coincidence. I think not.

I was also wondering if they had done hand writing analysis. However I'm a very visual person and the letters appeared to be written the same person to me. There is a curious over writing of the first letter on a few of the letters. This is evidence they are not going to reveal to the public.

but I doubt that that burning skyscraper in Madrid was filled with several thousand tons of jet fuel.

Sorry if this is coming late to that particular party. Dinner time, you know.

No war is a "good war". None

Well then, there isn't any disagreement, is there?

Mark Benjamin's Salon article has been reposted at ICH

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20432.htm

There is a curious over writing of the first letter on a few of the letters

Hit me right away, too. The "A"s look as if maybe the writer was going to use the letter "I"

You're speaking of the capital "A"s, right?

Glenn said :

I think they feel comfortable closing the case precisely because we don't have a real Congress.

From time to time I see quotes from Leahy and Daschle that indicate they are out of the loop on this curious anthrax situation. If Leahy is afraid to ask any questions about this case, they we might as well sit back and relax while the monkeys run the bureau of investigations.

is the description of "race" in the DUI Docs from the Frederick, Maryland court. Duley's "race" is noted as "White Caucasian Asiatic Indian Arab"

A self-description duly transcribed at arrest or booking, or some kind of racist racial anlysis by Officer Forrest Ryan?

Yes. The over writing of the first letter. Also the printing style seems consistent. The questions is do Scientist often use this style of printing. I know Architects,interior Designers and graphic designers do. It becomes a habit in daily writing because

of a printing technique used on projects .

Yeah, I looked a long time. And noticed the overwriting. I ended up thinking that they were pretty good replicates/ imitations of each other. My conclusion was based on the way the "A"s were written- overstroke in letter, not that way on writing on envelope. That's just how it hit me. But, crikey, I am not a professional graphologist, so your input is as good as mine.

Actually, when I first saw the Brokaw envelope, my reaction was that it had been written with the help of a mirror, to make the handwriting be less identifiable. Only a reaction!

I'm glad you feel that this is a valid point- looking closely at the handwriting on the various Anthrax written "memorabilia" and comparing it with Ivins' handwriting.

Maybe there's a professional graphologist lurking out there!

O/T - but still an example of official hanky panky...

While checking myspace, I came across this bulletin from Sheehan's campaign:

"We just got an official report from the Department of Election here in San Francisco."

"They "randomly" sampled 531 of the 10,856 signatures that we turned in."

"They are "challenging" 231 and "allowing" 300. That means, after posting a 22% failure rate when we turned in our signatures in "lieu" of a filing fee (which Independents have to get anyway, there is no "filing fee" allowed, in lieu of anything), we have posted an INCREDIBLY hard to believe 43.5 percent failure rate and we need 2116 more valid signatures by Friday at 5pm."

"We can do it but we need help."

"Please forward this around so people can help us, or donate so we can pay professionals (signature gatherers/lawyers) to help get the voice of the people on the ballot."

Seems like the powers that be are up to their usual BS. Failing 43% of the signatures? And this is before Pelosi mounts her challenge to the petition.

Please do what you can. If the Dems/Reps maintain their lock on Congress, we will never have the truth about anything - from Anthrax to 9-11 to the AG firing issue and so on ad nausuem. Scaring speaker Pelosi in her home turf may be the message she and the rest of the spineless Dems need to get.

www.cindyforcongress.org

On topic - MSNBC Countdown is doing a segment on the Anthrax "investigation." The show is on now and I think the Anthrax story is number three in the line up.

Notice that the Hartford Courant not only does not cite Duley's story, they state a different reason for his hospitalization.

http://www.courant.com/news/opinion/editorials/hc-fbi.artaug04,0,3746296.story

"Diagnosed with depression, he told a therapist he was considering suicide."

I did not hear Duley talk about depression or suicide, so if this is true, who was the therapist?

The more I listen to Duley, the more I think she is not only repeating fabrications, but fabricating on her own. I know - he said it in a group session. Good luck disproving that aspect of her story.

Another thing - if he actually had a file like she says, and said the things she says he said, not only would it be unlikely that he lasted until July 10, it would be unlikely he would be released from the psychiatric facility. As a voluntary admission perhaps he could leave voluntarily, but Duley's story is that he was originally involuntarily committed, then did a voluntary admission to avoid an extension of involuntary commitment. If he had a history like Duley says, and made calls to her like she says (did she tell the doctors?), then the doctors could have sought involuntary commitment. Yet they released him July 24, which tells me that someone made a determination he was not a threat to self or others. So who was Duley to question that, and if he was a homicidal maniac like she claimed and the FBI agreed she was in danger, what did she think a court order would do to stop him? And who made this into a live-testimony hearing rather than the usual affidavit sufficient for a temporary order?

One question I don't think I've heard, which is premised on Ivins having committed suicide, is whether this hearing contributed to that suicide. The guy gets out of the hospital and then hears about this - how did that affect him?

Moreover, this hearing served to announce that Ivins was being investigated, even though FBI policy is not to name people until charged.

I call b*ul*s*it on the whole thing. No need to parse or impeach - I think the Duley hearing is an outright, orchestrated fabrication that should be given no credence.

Her story is only slightly more believeable than the idea that 4 planes were hijacked and all disappeared inside buildings or the ground, and caused two massive steel buildings to collapse.

Why do we take these stories seriously?