And, now, you think/believe/plan to do .... what?

I'm engaged.

The takeover of Genentech by Roche may be opposed in the courts. Our small efforts seemed to convince some on the board, a few calls with the FTC (nothing they could do without evidence) yadda yadda... Roche (who did put up quite a bit of start-up capital for the company) and the stockholders had been playing a long drawn out game of see-saw with the stock and when Roche made their move they controlled about 56% of the stock so... there is little more we can do while we wait and see what becomes of any litigation, if there is any litigation. My argument was that Genentech is critical advanced technology - even with biowar apps. - and 100% American (I'm a protectionist now!) If you buy a frigging Dell computer on-line you have to promise you won't ship that technology overseas!

Now I'm just trying to prevent the wider dissemination of harmful falsehoods and nonsense, as usual.

In answer to his question: Lincoln did try to get the border states to agree to compensated emancipation.

http://mac110.assumption.edu/aas/Manuscripts/lincolncompemanc.html

It was rejected. When the British government decided to end slavery, the slave-owners in overseas colonies lacked the political strength to block it. Legislated abolition could be forced down their throats without the need for a military confrontation and coercive force, which the British Crown surely would have done had it been necessary. In the US, the southern slaveocracy did have the political strength to block it, and they were unwilling to accept any peaceful abolition of their "peculiar institution."

This is why no credible historians even address this nonsense. The election of Lincoln in 1860 - a candidate who had explicitly and repeatedly declared that he would not touch the institution of slavery where it already existed, but only proposed to limit its expansion to new territories - was enough the provoke them to secede from the US and form the Confederacy. Once that happened, the question of whether the US government should use compensated emancipation to end slavery in the southern states became irrelevant. The US government - headed by Lincoln - no longer had any jurisdiction in the Confederate States--unless, that is, it used military force to prevent their secession. And don't look to Thoreau for any help. He sided with Lincoln. Now, about FDR and Pearl Harbor...

Not a really big deal but:

Duley, 45, also has a minor criminal record, according to court records. (Wires 24/7

Officials: Sorority obsession seen in anthrax case)

...yet she herself states that her date of birth is

'4/22/46'in her own writing on the Petition for Peace Order doc that she signed as displayed the Smoking Gun. That would make her 62 years of age.

I have seen her described more than once today in different reports as being '45'.

What other confusion might there be about much more complicated facts?

AP has now updated the Kappa Kappa Gamma angle:

The mailbox just off the campus of Princeton University where the letters were mailed sits about 100 yards away from where the college's Kappa Kappa Gamma chapter stores its rush materials, initiation robes and other property. Sorority members do not live there, and the Kappa chapter at Princeton does not provide a house for the women.

Link: http://tinyurl.com/62dbfb

@Northwest

No, the date 4/22/46 in the document is the birth date of Ivins, not of the Duley. It's on a page with data to identify the person against whom the order is requested. So no contradiction here.

Please.

You are right to keep pounding away at LWM's contentions about the civil war. He's just too namby-pamby to state the truth in so many words: A terrible Civil War of brother against brother was probably not required to end slavery, or adjust economic conditions more equitably for the South. Nor, for the South, was it militarily smart.

But the South started and fought the war anyway, and in due course, got their asses whipped.

It's is commendable that you won't accept any euphemisms or obfuscations about this. The Southland deserves nothing less.

That also suggests to me that the last thing they can do is actually close the case, because then, if we had a real Congress, Mueller and Mukasey's butts would be brought to the witness table forthwith to provide a full accounting.

I think they feel comfortable closing the case precisely because we don't have a real Congress.

I'm interviewing Rush Holt tomorrow - he's actually the Chair of a fairly decent Committee ("decent" in terms of jurisdiction and power here). I intend to spend the whole time trying to convince him to hold a serious investigation or find out what needs to be done to make that happen.

That AP correction is just the funniest thing ever.

It was [Brown's] peculiar doctrine that a man has a perfect right to interfere by force with the slaveholder, in order to rescue the slave. I agree with him. ... I do not wish to kill nor to be killed, but I can foresee circumstances in which both these things would be by me unavoidable.

Thoreau, "A Plea for Captain John Brown," in Reform Papers, pp. 132-33, Princeton University Press, 1973

Enough. I'm going to schmear some cream on my Zionist Bagel and Lox!

isn't really there, and should be pulled. I should have known better, but I wasn't expecting deus ex machina to get here so fast.

Glenn- thanks for the great series. I have two further points/ questions that I haven't seen addressed. Perhaps minor, but still of interest.

1) Is it possible to get more details about what happened in court re: the application for the restraining order?

A commenter at FDL (psychiatrist) made the following observation, after reading the application text, which was posted earlier in the same thread:

~~In LA County Mental Health Court, the judge would have handed me my ass for phrasing like that before the patients’ advocates ever had a chance to.~~

http://firedoglake.com/2008/08/01/from-anthrax-to-war-how-about-lets-not-forgive-and-forget/#comment-1564340

Application text is at: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2008/0801081anthrax1.html

2) The handwriting in the Anthrax letters vs. Bruce Ivins' handwriting-

I am a Ph.D. neuroscientist. One of the fascinating things about handwriting is how stable it is, in terms of being a "motor program"- people write words in a remarkably similiar fashion, whether they are writing with their whole arm in the sand at the beach, or writing in the "normal" way.

2a) I looked at the handwriting on the envelope addressed to Tom Brokaw (from smoking gun) and compared it with the visual of the Tom Brokaw letter you posted. I am a very visual person, and my first impression was they were not written by the same person, even. (sorry, tinfoil time). Be that as it may, I am wondering to what extent the handwriting on the various Anthrax Letters and envelopes were examined by a professional graphologist? (These professionals end up being expert witnesses in various court cases of all sorts, and yes, I would trust the best of them.)

2b) Being that Bruce Ivins was a professional scientist, there must be a lot of handwriting samples available from his lab books, to say the least. Again, I would be very interested to know how a professional graphologist would compare his handwriting with that on the various Anthax Letters. This might be as telling as the DNA footprints of the dried down anthrax.

I hope I'm not going to far afield here, but I feel my questions are valid, tho perhaps ancillary.