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Monday, August 4, 2008 12:00 AM

Additional key facts re: the anthrax investigation

The media's key witness as to the psychological state of Bruce Ivins -- Jean Carol Duley -- has a lengthy history that undermines her credibility.

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Monday, August 4, 2008 03:41 PM

messy, messy, messy

I think it smells. It's the final straw for me. -LWM

And, now, you think/believe/plan to do .... what?

Annie W, I agree. I doubt she's the villian here., too. Whether one wants to assert that the FBI tipped her up, for the media to set her up, for the radical, leftist™ blogoshpere to knock her down ... who knows. But, your average nighttime news consumer is being fed a carefully scripted story that the case is now reasonably closed.

On the whole ugly sordid mess what Dave Neiwert said,

At the end of the day, what we're looking at is a Bush clusterfuck of historic proportions: an intensely important weapons program where security is criminally lax; an administration so intensely politicized that it is willing to seize upon terrorist attacks against their political enemies as a club for obtaining their agenda -- potentially through collusion with the terrorist; an administration similarly willing to flout the fundamental tenets of international law; while the actual perpetrator remains scot-free and is only finally revealed by his own continuing miscreancy.
If that doesn't bear investigation, nothing does.
Monday, August 4, 2008 03:41 PM

Kappa Kappa Gamma

he was obsessed with a sorority & so he sent antrax to daschle & leahy?!?!

yeah, makes sense.

Monday, August 4, 2008 03:44 PM

Maybe this is why they want to close the case up:

Here is the story:

Emergent BioSolutions Acquires Advanced Recombinant Protective Antigen Anthrax Vaccine Candidate And Technology

Main Category: Bio-terrorism / Terrorism

Also Included In: Immune System / Vaccines

Article Date: 06 May 2008 - 2:00 PDT

Emergent BioSolutions Inc. (NYSE: EBS) announced that it has completed the acquisition of all assets and rights related to a recombinant protective antigen (rPA) anthrax vaccine product candidate and related technology from VaxGen, Inc.

Recent improvements to the rPA vaccine, specifically related to stability, suggests that it is well positioned to be a leading candidate for an award under a request for proposal (RFP) recently issued by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). The vaccine candidate has completed one Phase 2 clinical study.

This RFP is designed to meet the government's stated goal to procure 25 million doses of an rPA anthrax vaccine for the Strategic National Stockpile (SNS). HHS has indicated that any awards under this RFP are scheduled to be granted in late 2008.

What that means is that Emergent and Battelle are now the sole-source manufacturers of all U.S. anthrax vaccine (given to U.S. soldiers today). In 1999 and 2000, Emergent (then Bioport) had its facilities shut down and all vaccine was then made for them by Battelle - apparently Emergent is now making their vaccine in Michigan.

The vaccination has to be repeated on a regular basis as it wears off within a year or so, and it requires at least six initial injections over a series of weeks and months - all billed to a private company. Of course, since the fall anthrax attacks of 9/18 and 10/9, no one is currently questioning the need to vaccinate our troops against anthrax. And, of course, the vaccine is "safe and effective".

This is just one branch of our wonderful "Homeland Security" contracting system - the Project Bioshield arm. I imagine the rest of it is just as rotten and corrupt as this one is.

Nice headline, wasn't it? "FBI Investigates Financial Motive in Terror Assault." Washington Post Dec 21, 2001.

But, say the media folks, the story just went cold for a few years after that... and now the reporters can't even remember what they wrote back then.

No need to print a correction - just chuck it down the memory hole and hope the public forgets about it.

Monday, August 4, 2008 03:57 PM

re: Synchronicity

It's amazing how the day LWM decides to post again, Abe Lincoln and the Confederacy once again rears its head. And of course Ron Paul has to come up, comparing him to Nancy Pelosi on the ACLU Meter no less. Nancy Pelosi is pure fail and you're pure fail too if you vote for support her and her "Antiwar Enough" friends.

Surely it is nothing more than a coincindence that these things happen...

I wonder how many "last straws" it has left in its never-ending hay bail?

-- Chris Sinnard

It was odd. He started off with a couple of shots across Glenn's bow but jumped on the bus once he saw how many just do not believe the government on this issue. Like a politician he saw a parade going the other way, made a U-turn, and claimed he was leading the parade.

I do not believe the FBI given what I think I know at this time; but I might change my mind if all their cards are laid upon the table and the story makes sense. (not holding my breath, mind you)

I do not believe the official 9-11 story as put out by the Bush administration. It has way too many holes and coincidences to be credible. I hope that someday the real story will come out. (not holding my breath)

I do not believe the Warren Commission on the JFK assassination. The report was preposterous. Someday we may know the real story. (not holding ...)

As a matter of fact, any story that comes out of DC is suspect on the face of it. It will be self-serving at the very least. And with the "secrecy state" we have now, it is almost impossible to ferret out the truth.

Monday, August 4, 2008 04:06 PM

@heru-ur

First, I agree, this line of debate is way off issue.

The Madrid building was reinforced concrete with some non-fireproofed steel in the upper stories. That exposed steel failed and caused partial collapse of the building. The reinforced concrete center structure didn't fail, but that's different than the WTC.

As to your question re: steel structure buildings, obviously there aren't any. However, (and I don't know this) how many steel structure buildings like WTC have been hit by planes and/or suffered serious fires or damage? It seems like the WTC design was really innovative at the time and may have suffered some design flaws (just theorizing now).

best,

Jay

Monday, August 4, 2008 04:11 PM

LWM goes for the smear, is this new?

"By all means, if you don't have an argument -or an answer to my evidence that you are a mere apologist, a "useful idiot," for slavery and white supremacy - abuse the plaintiff."

Read the past thread were you gave no evidence that America is so unique that of all the countries to ever exist on the planet Earth, only the exceptional USA needed a war to end slavery. I gave all kinds of evidence. Even though the war was over the tariff anyway, and not slavery until it was convenient for the president who started it; you still can not justify it on the slavery angle because every other country in the world did it without war.

Damn! Just like Bush II, the reason for the war change as the war went on. Imagine that!

LWM, your little smears are the work of a seriously sick person. Seek help. Were you not "done here" a while ago? It has been so serious and informative here while you were in hiding. Coincidence? (I think not)

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