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Monday, August 4, 2008 12:00 AM

Additional key facts re: the anthrax investigation

The media's key witness as to the psychological state of Bruce Ivins -- Jean Carol Duley -- has a lengthy history that undermines her credibility.

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Monday, August 4, 2008 02:00 PM

Evidently our FBI is really saying this.

He was obsessed by a sorority?

Obviously, if he mailed the anthrax from a mail box near a sorority, officials would naturally assume that the sisters mailed the anthrax in between stopping on main street Princeton for a Mocha Latte and going to the campus book store. Ivins gleefully visualized the authorities swooping down on the Kappas and frog marching them off to prison.

This shows that our nations top pathology researchers are not the idiots we think they are!

www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2008/08/officials_anthrax_suspect_was.html

Monday, August 4, 2008 02:00 PM

LWM

-I'm going to look at pictures of nekkid women now.-

Sure, they're nekkid.....but are you certain about 'women'?

Monday, August 4, 2008 02:01 PM

Battelle Institute

I had the occasion to attend staff education at the Ohio State University Medical Center's main campus in 2004. Its staff education department had leased space inside the Battelle Institute, and so I saw first hand its security procedures for "visitors." Battelle had ramped up visitor access with a lot of cameras and remote surveillance as well as elevator access restrictions, but overall, security staff were more than unimpressive, routinely overlooking visitors who walked by the desk without signing in or out as long as an OSU employee ID badge was flashed.

If I recall, the building was/is home to a level 4 biolab. It is directly across a parking lot from the main OSUMC hospital complex. Very non-reassuring.

Oh, and lookee what's on the Battelle website (link at my name)

The Battelle National Biodefense Institute was selected by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2006 to manage the new National Biodefense Analysis & Countermeasures Center (NBACC), a Federally Funded Research and Development Center. The NBACC, scheduled to open in 2008, will be the nation's premier research facility for biological threat characterization and bioforensic research. The lab, which will employ approximately 120 people, is under construction in Frederick, Maryland at Fort Detrick. The 160,000-square-foot facility will become part of the biodefense campus that includes the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases.
Monday, August 4, 2008 02:05 PM

No...

But this is all hypothetical...

Of course with the death of Ivins the actual "trial" will be an FBI press conference, with a slew of conspiracy books to follow.

-- Attorney, eh?

None of this is hypothetical. Some of it is now academic, some is now moot. The deaths by anthrax were real and we don't know who did it and we should know and if Ms. Duley gets some bark stripped off her in the process, so be it. Judging by her history, it won't be a strange new experience for her.

Monday, August 4, 2008 02:07 PM

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Monday, August 4, 2008 02:08 PM

Jean Duley: "he had bought a vest, obtained a gun"

ABC News

http://www.abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=5509641&page=1

Jean Duley, who had been Ivins' social worker in therapy sessions, was convinced he might try to kill her and others. She recently went to court seeking protection from Ivins. During a hearing on the matter, she described a chilling July 9 group counseling session.

"He was extremely agitated, out of control," she said.

"He proceeded to describe to the group a very long and detailed homicidal plan and intention, that he had bought a vest, obtained a gun, a very detailed plan to kill his co-workers, because he was about to be indicted on capital murder charges," she added. "He was going to go out in a blaze of glory."

Surely there must be a record of Ivins buying a vest and JUST where did Dr. Ivins obtain this "gun" Duley speaks of?

These Doctor types going on a Columbine style rampage - yeah that doesn't sound right to me.

And so it looks like ABC is just going sit back and wait for Patrick Fitzgerald. It is the only way get the truth or any REAL news out of media anymore is to let the lawyers do the all the missing legwork and prosecute the members of press and media.

I mean, have when was the last time we ever seen the press do a more complete job of investigating that Mr. Greenwald has done here?

Heck, anymore if it ain't gossip then the villagers ain't interested. Who ever heard of investigative journalism, well not anybody over at ABC. Murdock would be so proud.

So bring it on Fitz. Brian Ross may not even last as long as Judith Miller did - than retire, like Miller to talk about a need for a sheild law to a bunch a people that won't to listen to Ross anymore than the listen to Miller.

Monday, August 4, 2008 02:09 PM

Another blast from the past

http://www.thesimon.com/magazine/articles/canon_fodder/01241_philip_zack_steals_anthrax.html

Monday, August 4, 2008 02:12 PM

But, does anyone remember...

The crackpot 'medical examiner' that 'cleared' Joe Scarborough when that women 'slipped' in his office and hit a table clear across the room from where her body was found?

That same 'medical examiner' popped up in a number of other cases both before and after Scarborough's as I remember...

Just like all of the Blight House's 'scientists', it has a cadre of doctors and others at the ready to 'take one' for the president's men and their warped scorched earth agenda...

Monday, August 4, 2008 02:12 PM

I'm offended by all of this

All these travesties and miscarriages of justice. The Telcom immunity I expected, the cave on FISA as well, but for me, at least, this is more offensive because this was first degree murder and some people think it might be better to CYA it, sweep it under the rug for political expediency and preserving personal reputations. I think it smells. It's the final straw for me.

Monday, August 4, 2008 02:12 PM

In Duley's defense

Alot of the comments that are being attributed to Duley seem to be taken directly off of the restraining order.

This woman was obviously contacted by the FBI that told her Ivins was a killer, and was going to be charged with 5 capital crimes soon. Her order says as much...otherwise how would she know?

She got the tar scared out of her by the FBI with their tales. I can't say that I wouldn't be frightened if the FBI told me a client that was furious or even annoyed with me was a serial killer that had "woman" issues.

The press is the one touting her as the expert. I don't see any direct quotes from her, just quotes from her panicked scrawl.

I doubt she's the villian here.

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