live anthrax was FedEx'd regularly from Dugway to Ft. Detrick with no fatalities

No apparent fatalities. If I were the FedEx manager at either end of that trip I'd be frantically checking HR and shipping records right now. I hope they filled in all the correct hazmat forms, but from what we hear about sloppy procedures at Detrick, maybe not.

RSpertzel@benadorassociates.com

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http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/605

I will try and find more.

Glenn, you might try to call the UN at (212) 963-8302. Or maybe contact Jason Vest or Wayne Madsen at the Village Voice at (212) 475-3300. They covered UNSCOM for the Voice.

Should have posted this above also-

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I'm not sure about the reason for your comment but suspect you've not read my prior posts or you wouldn't have made assumptions about the quote that you use. As a psychologist, I'm well aware of confidentiality issues -- and the limits on confidentiality. As Annie W discovered, clients are (or should be) routinely informed on the limits of confidentiality. We do have a duty to report and, if subpoenaed, must provide requested records. That is not the issue here. If Duley honestly believed that Dr. Ivins was a threat to himself or others, she had a duty to report and apparently did -- leading to his brief hospitalization. That's appropriate and, except for whatever additional stress was imposed on the patient by the hospitalization, would have been the end of that story. What was not required was for her to to initiate a restraining order or for it to be handled in the way it was. What that filing accomplished was not only an egregious violation of patient privacy but has provided the media with talking points that they are gleefully repeating, that smear Dr. Ivins' record and name and that provide cover for the FBI's desire to close the case -- nothing here, the guy was crazy, move on.

If you're interested in my concerns about the restraining/peace order (as opposed to the duty to warn), please see here:

http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/03/journalism/permalink/f3b8649a915e17da975901888a4ed753.html

BTW Interesting that Spertzel doesn't think Ivins did it:

"USAMRIID doesn't deal with powdered anthrax," said Richard Spertzel, who worked with Ivins at the Army lab. "I don't think there's anyone there who would have the foggiest idea how to do it. You would need to have the opportunity, the capability and the motivation, and he didn't possess any of those."

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/world/2008/0804/1217628485411.html

In August, 2002, as Hatfill became the public suspect, Spertzel was interviewed by CNN. Here is a very interesting part of the exchange:

ZAHN: Dr. Spertzel, we've just got about 10 seconds left. If you don't believe Dr. Hatfill is the FBI's man, who do you think was responsible for these anthrax mailings?

SPERTZEL: I believe it is impossible to make that product in a clandestine fashion within the U.S. Therefore, I have contended from the very beginning that you need to look at an overseas location for its production.

Link: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0208/02/ltm.01.html

The absence of bentonite was established at that time, but Spertzel was continuing to push the Iraq connection as part of his overall drumbeat for attacking Iraq. However, it is very interesting that he would state, as "an expert" that weaponized material of this grade could not be made clandestinely in the US. Sounds to me like anther argument for Dugway as the source.

It's interesting that aside from a few perfunctory yelps about "conspiracy theories," the usual suspects are oddly silent today. As an earlier commenter mentioned, and I offered in an earlier thread, it seems as though the White House and the Noise Machine have punted this one; counting on the disgracefully compromised MSM to go ahead and carry the water, gratis and unguided. Unfortunately, this strategy appears, for the moment at least, to be working.

But the unanswered questions remain, and I have some hope that much more of this will be coming out, and I'm oddly encouraged that the "P.R. campaign to top this," as Nixon put it and as the Bushies have slavishly followed, has not yet been forthcoming. It's a case of the dog that didn't bark, and it's really quite curious. I'm reminded that even at the outset, when ABC was spewing its credulous BS, the administration uncharacteristically "denied" any evidence to corroborate ABC's claims. A far cry from Cheney's "even the liberal New York Time said so" of days gone by. It's as though, even then, a cabal that would lie when the truth would sound better, was afraid to step in, and their silence now speaks volumes.

What's most discouraging of course, is that the media now spout Bushite lies seemingly without needing to be goaded, threatened or fed them, in a disturbingly Pavlovian fashion.

Brian Ross rushes in where Shooter fears to tread. Ain't that the damnedest thing?

Brian Ross rushes in where Shooter fears to tread. Ain't that the damnedest thing?

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Maybe they're one and the same! ;)

Spertzel and Benador. Why am I not surprised? He's probably good friends with Laurie Mylroie.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Benador_Associates

Not sure what you're trying to say here. In what way does Duley's testimony contrast with the FBI' s behavior? It appears to support their behavior and implicit goal -- to close the case down. What makes Duley any more credible than the FBI and how does raising questions about her statements give the FBI credibility? Quite the contrary from my point of view. And no assumptions need be made about her relationship to the FBI. She said quite clearly in the audio from the PO filing that she was working cooperatively with the FBI.

You seem to have spun out some theory that Duley would be "vilified" and then thrown out as a crank and this would benefit the FBI. Thus far her statements would seem to support the FBI contention that Ivins was responsible for the anthrax attack -- after all, he was a closet homicidal psychopath.