As a physician with 30 years of clinical experience and about 6 years of ER experience, I have never seen, heard or read of immediate death from an overdose of Tylenol with codeine.

Tylenol (acetominophen) by itself can cause a fatal overdose, but it is a slow death by liver failure, and may take days to weeks. Codeine is a weak opiate and even at high doses is not much of a respiratory depressant - and high doses tend to be limited by nausea and vomiting.

In fact the package insert for Tylenol with codeine doesn't even mention respiratory depression as a potential danger. I haven't been able to find even a single case report of death by respiratory depression due to codeine with or without Tylenol in the literature, but would be happy to be corrected.

And once again, why would a scientist with knowledge of biowarfare agents choose such a messy and ineffective means of suicide?

I will never forget the day when Brian Ross lost all credibility as an investigative reporter. It was when he was reporting on the DC madam case in which he was to come back on air on ABC New's with Charley Gibson a second day with some realy big name's that were involved in her prostition ring. I mean it wasn't that he didn't have these name's yet, he said he did and yet I forget what excuse he used, maybe it's because I couldn't believe whatever he was saying because all of a sudden he didn't have the name's anymore. And then the look he and Gibson gave each other at the end of the story was as though they just had there live's threatened.

On this "social worker" and "theripist" [sic], Jean Duley:

(1) My gut tells me that we should probably verify that she has an LMSW. You have to have the license to call yourself a "social worker." http://willyloman.wordpress.com/2008/08/02/dr-bruce-ivins-ms-jean-duley-and-the-fbis-court-document/

(2) After examining the restraining order dated 07/24/08, she filed against Ivins we can come to several conclusions:

A. She doesn't have professional grade writing skills and even misspelled therapist as "theripist."

B. She doesn't seem at all familiar with the current professional labels and sequela necessary to understand, describe or diagnose the psychopathology alleged to be involved. She claims that Ivins' psychiatrist "called him homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions [and] will testify with other details [.] FBI involved [;] currently under investigation and will be charged [with five] murders."

C. Following from (B) above, "sociopath" is a term some very old psychiatrists continue to use. It has been replaced since the 60s-70s with the more specifically characterized category, "anti-social personality disorder," which IMHO Ivins does not exhibit. Major Depression, yes.

D. Even worse for the reputation of the "psychiatrist," the description seems to have been rendered after the fact. In other words, this "psychiatrist" seems already under the impression that Ivins was "sociopathic," which is a term used in FBI circles. So who gave this very old and not up to date "psychiatrist" the clinical impression that Ivins was "homocidal, sociopathic, with clear intentions" once the guy sought treatment at "FMH" [hospital?] and was transferred on a self-commitment to "sheppard pratt" [sic] [psychiatric hospital?].

E. If the "theripist" [sic] received a threatening phone call on 7/11/08 at 11:25 (am?) after Ivins committed himself [should be documented in Sheppard Pratt medical chart that he made a call], why did she wait until the FBI had Ivins under investigation to file a restraining order on 7/24/08?

F. Why did the "Cpl. Easted" (sp?) go the next day to Ft. Detrick to deliver the restraining order at word, but when he was told that Ivins had been barred from the property, he did not follow-up by attempting to deliver the order to his home? Indeed, there was no follow-up at all after the first attempt at the workplace until 7/29/08, when Cpl. Gary W. Cline made a note on the "Return of Service" form that Ivins was deceased. So where is the urgency in a legal process where the alleged "sociopath" has a "clear intention"? But then, Ivins sought treatment himself, right?

G. Why did the "theripist" [sic] note on her application for restraining order that Ivins was to be charged with five murders? Who made her privy to that confidential information? Why did the county process agents not demonstrate enough concern for her safety then to even follow-up after only apparently one attempt at service? Had Ivin's provided that knowledge to her during therapy? Or did the FBI provide it to her?

H. Why did this "social worker," Jean Duley, project motivation into Ivins' self-commitment on the form by stating that his self-commitment was done so that he could retain the legal power to leave treatment at his discretion? How did that experience-based professional projection come into the mind of such an unskilled, undereducated "theripist" [sic]? If that was the case, why was he not legally committed?

I. Why was there never a mention from these psychiatric and social work professionals concerning suicidal ideations? Are we dealing with a blatant misdiagnoses of a man who would sit for hours weeping at his desk, a man who had lost all motivation to work and eventually to live, a man who finally (APPARENTLY) acted to end his suffering with an overdose of an opiod/analgesic medication unrelated to either the appropriate diagnosis of depression or the misdiagnoses described inappropriately as "sociopathic"?

J. Why did Jean Duley neglect the question on the form concerning sexual assault or intimidation? Did she simply overlook the question or does it have unconscious meaning?

K. Why did Jean Duley write "confidential" into the space asking for both her work and home address? These were necessary to identify the addresses from which the "perpetrator" was to stay away. Was it because she knew the form would be used outside the narrow process she was initiating? Did she fear her address would become public knowledge? If so, why did she fear her address would become public or be used in other legal processes?

(3) Coup de Grâce [pardon the pun): Jean Duley, Ivins' alleged "theripist" [sic], was so frightened of this "homicidal," "sociopathic" (who had become so angry at the FBI's harassment that despite homicidal ideations with "a clear intent," he checked himself into a hospital and then accepted transfer on a self-commitment), that she waited two-weeks to file a restraining order. Not! This undereducated, inexperienced "theripist" [sic] was brought in and encouraged to file, during which she apparently asked questions regarding things like her address and was told what to fill in. Otherwise, her complaint is a hurried and unmitigated mess with dates and times supplied to her.

(4) This man was not "sociopathic." More to the point, he was not anti-social and did not display any of the signs and symptoms that would have been the appropriate diagnoses. When depressed, it is not unusual for a person to experience homicidal ideations. All some men have to do is think "Mother-in-Law" to experience them even at a picnic.

(5) This faux-diagnoses has been contrived. The question obviously points to the FBI and the people who are genuinely manipulating evidence following 911 to provide cover for something else going on. This is probably more sloppy field work than what was evident from the Niger Yellow-cake Forgery.

(6) Look for all genuine professional documentation to vanish into thin air.