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Friday, August 1, 2008 12:00 AM

Vital unresolved anthrax questions and ABC News

A top U.S. government scientist, suspected of the anthrax attacks, commits suicide. ABC News knows who is responsible for false reports blaming those attacks on Iraq, but refuses to say.

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Friday, August 1, 2008 07:14 AM

Patriot Act

If memory serves me correctly, these letters were sent to the two Senators that were holding up passage of the (Un)Patriot Act. Also, it was not just Cohen that was on Cipero, but the White House staff was also taking it prior to the anthrax attacks.

For those of us that even had a modicum of critical thinking, we knew that this was a not as it seemed. And now with Seymore Hirsch saying that Cheney wanted to send US Navy Seals dressed as Iranians to fire on US ships in order to jusify an attack, well, it's quite telling. Gulf Of Tonken, Operation Northwoods. Please people, take what your told about events and apply the long lost art of critical thinking. Things are not always as they seem.

Friday, August 1, 2008 07:15 AM

I think you're just scared, tiberius.

Glenn is turning into another conspiracy nut.

Support your own claims with solid facts as Glenn does and maybe you'll get a bit more creditability.

Until then, head back to your prepubescent harems on the isle of Rhodes and let history forget about you (again).

Friday, August 1, 2008 07:15 AM

Tiberius making it up

"No one, except Glenn, thinks the anthrax attacks approach the devastation of 911."--tiberius

"I don't think this and didn't say this. You just made this up."--GlennGreenwald

"Let's repeat:--tiberius "One could make a persuasive case that they were actually more consequential.--GlennGreenwald"

Start back pedaling."--tiberius

con·se·quen·tial

adj.

1. Following as an effect, result, or conclusion; consequent.

2. Having important consequences; significant:

dev·as·tate (dv-stt)

tr.v. dev·as·tat·ed, dev·as·tat·ing, dev·as·tates

1. To lay waste; destroy.

2. To overwhelm; confound; stun

Friday, August 1, 2008 07:17 AM

War Needed To Pump Up The News

Apparently ABC and the Weekly Standard did their fair share.

Friday, August 1, 2008 07:17 AM

Weird happenings at the hospital

Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference between intuition and paranoia. When invited to a friend's birthday party on September 6, 2001, I reacted strongly against it, having an intuition that things there would not be long good. Surely I was not the only one who had these feelings. Love to hear other stories.

When I used to manage a store, I could sense, immediately, when someone was there to steal to do wrong, as reality itself, the flow and the vibe, would be more sawtooth than sine, say, but in this case, people in "Washington" were acting strangely. Bush had taken an early vacation, and was still fuming about the loss of California, where he had lost so much, Enron was punishing Californians, and New Yorkers laughed and mocked Bush when he visited. The economy was stuck in the mid-90s, and going nowhere...as was Bush's approval ratings. How to kick-start the economy?

Long story short, the birthday boy lived across the street from the Eye & Ear hospital that got whacked with Anthrax (no, I didn't do it), but before that happened I saw suspicious lights, as if focused on me (on the patio at the Concorde), coming from that hospital. I felt I was being filmed or at least watched. Something there was not right. I read today that they closed the hospital down for a week soon thereafter. Perhaps my paranoia was really no paranoia at all.

Has there been any research into this hospital, and who was in charge of, perhaps, scrubbing it?

My basic intuition about NYC was spot on. I did wind up being stuck there, breathing that foul, asbestos and corpse-filled smog for a couple of weeks. Many folks just think we will all forget this stuff over time, maybe because their own memories are so bad. I don't know that I will.

I am offended that our own government could act malevolently toward her own citizens. I'm not even keen on malevolence toward others. This sickness, this blight of conscience needs to be found and removed. America and the world needs to start healing.

Thanks for keeping a light shining on this oft' overlooked stepping stone toward war. As once cannot build a foundation of shifting sand, so too will this huge edifice of lies crumble and fall, largely at the hands of those who built it.

Let it.

Friday, August 1, 2008 07:18 AM

A word of caution ...

It Really Is Time...

...for people to crank up their dvd players and start ordering some of "whacko" "screwball" "crazy" 911 Truth Movement dvd's. They're starting to look less crazy by the moment. There really does seem to be a "there" there.

If you want to discredit a group, plant someone in it who lobbies for the most crazy acts or "whacko" beliefs. If you want to discredit the people who do not accept the government's Official Conspiracy Theory on what happened on 9-11, then plant wild and crazy theories that will be shown to be wrong thereby discrediting the whole movement. For example, that the plane that hit the pentagon was really a missile. (how stupid is that?)

Rove did that to Dan Rather. Rather was right about Bush but had been handed false documents and he was fooled; so the whole thing went away. Rove is no fool, I'll say that.

As to the anthrax mess, the Democrats could have helped a bit by congressional oversite of federal agencies coupled with impeachment. But, that path seems to scare them. (are some of the Demo leaders hiding something themselves?)

Now, everything that happened in 2001 will forever be uncertain. Well, except for my memory of various intelligence officers who claimed just after the 9-11 attacks that no individual hiding in a cave did the attack. They claim it was a government opp. I believed them then, and I have seen nothing since to change my mind.

Friday, August 1, 2008 07:27 AM

Gosh, just when you think they'd run out of ways to not solve the anthrax case, they come up with another ...

new update:

A U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity because grand jury matters are secret, said the Justice Department was closing in on Ivins and had made the decision to seek the death penalty.

Ivins died Tuesday at a Maryland hospital after an apparent suicide.

It was a grand jury leak.

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I note also this man died on Tuesday and today is Friday and there news report is sketchy (it's been updated a little bit) but there is no mention of a note.

The anthrax attacks were remarkable in their cruelty and their sloppiness (despite the obvious extreme care required to protect the culprit). Yes, every postal worker around the country was alarmed and worried not only for themselves but their children and any other "innocent bystanders" they might infect.

I'm not sure if any of the actual victims who contracted anthrax was an actual deliberate target. I recall several months later were living with disease sequelae.

A terrible disservice has been done - whether or not this man was the actual guilty culprit or whether an innocent man overwhelmed by circumstance. Dead, he can neither defend himself or name accomplices. He cannot tell us his motive or regale us with the cleverness of his methods.

Interesting also that the FBI made such quick progress as a reopened cold case.

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