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Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:00 AM

Democrats' strategy: Strength through bowing

Yet again, Democrats, in their never-ending quest to avoid looking "weak," engage in the precise behavior that guarantees that perception

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Thursday, July 10, 2008 04:28 PM

@Pedinska

something to hand the RWA when you use that line...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3200/2353063141_9ea5eb42d1.jpg?v=0

(link at sig, yes yes)

Thursday, July 10, 2008 04:30 PM

@pedinska

I can't believe that anything I ever write "off the cuff" can be of use to anybody. If I was writing for keeps, I write, I go over it at least three times to tighten, try different wording and phrasing, than I submit it to my wife, who is one hell of a born editor. Than, of course, I wrote it over.

I bet if you worked on it, just a little you could phrase it even better. I was just trying it out, you know, running it up the flagpole to see if it would catch fire.

But you get the idea.

Thursday, July 10, 2008 04:47 PM

Calls, emails

I'm not so sure the foreign-to-foreign communications that are routed through the US are limited to emails, Silash. According to a research company that tracks international communications, calls are included in that:

NSA's Lucky Break: How the U.S. Became Switchboard to the World

A lucky coincidence of economics is responsible for routing much of the world's internet and telephone traffic through switching points in the United States, where, under legislation introduced this week, the U.S. National Security Agency will be free to continue tapping it....

http://www.wired.com/politics/security/news/2007/10/domestic_taps

Yes, the Attorney General did have the authority to tap "purely foreign-to-foreign" calls. But, as Glenn said, the administration claimed that the court said that foreign-to-foreign communications that passed through the US required a warrant.

Thursday, July 10, 2008 04:50 PM

"We need to be skeered!"

Pedinska, have you ever notice how they spend half the time telling us how backwards, fragmented, misogynist and internally corrupt "Muslim society" (as if there was any such thing) is, and the other half telling how "skeered" we need to be of guys who, in the age of guided missles and atomic weapons, are still strapping bombs to themselves?

Anyway, I still contend that the biggest victory for the neo-cons in this awful mess is their ability to tell us what they hope they heard or want to hear on the telephone, rather than the endless exchange of untranslatable falafel recipes and requests for money sent back home.

Thursday, July 10, 2008 04:55 PM

@Derbig Mooser

Comparing the Cold War threat to the Iranian threat with regard to nuclear missles? From which politician have I heard that argument before? Hmmm, gee, I wonder...

Thursday, July 10, 2008 04:58 PM

Oh, that's right....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oW02XIvoZx0

@1:45

Thursday, July 10, 2008 05:18 PM

mistake. (I was trying ti 'hit' Glenn's post to see the photo of the signing)

Then I thought: Arne. I'd rather see the fish and honeymoon shots. I hope you include a photo of your partner.

In a few days, Arne, send a e-mail to Glenn so he can post it. Write one with a bit different take that the one he shared with us readers ref; about we American people need to be all honey-moon-mushy.

Jebbie still wants to moon them in when the cherry blossoms bloom? That's one way to cause the flowers to rot instantly and drop from the trees. Keep the moon idea for another harsher waste-land time.

Politico's are already fearful of many things. Politico's aren't oral hygienist. People never think kindly about politicians, nor the undertakers with bad cases of halitosis who stuffs a turnip up the body's cavity holes.

After the Pedinska read?

The good garden compost idea.

It is an essential good soil fertilizer.

After decay and composition is complete,

dump the nations night-soil on the oval rug.

It's a natural way that citizens can hope for a rose garden.

It's essential for a vegetable or a rose garden. Respect the highest organic rules.

Never put raw fresh manure on string beans or tomatoes. Use green manures at home.

Green manure is a rotation of clovers, fetch, and decomposed leaves, flower blossoms etc.,

It's good to prefer green manures. However, the Jebbie moon idea?People drop the britches?

Squat. Millions of people doing a modest dump at government facilities? I still thing throwing clover seeds are a better idea. I blame Rumi because he mentioned he felt he was tempted to squat and HOPE something would grow.

P.S. Arne. Blesses is a man who has watched his hair grow white, if he's married and can still stand to hear his spouse's voice at night. In bed, Arne mentioned in a e-male that he can't sleep at night because his bed-partner keeps talking. (I'll go now to the Glenn post-op of GOPS and watch a few plastic smirk-mask-scabs, signing the morticians contract and bill.)

Post-op. huh. O, post-op I mean when the coroner cuts 'um up to look for a human heart and finds none. The coroner request rot teeth, rot liver, rot-gall bladder, and orders rotten cheery blossoms for the funeral eulogy. The Plans is for a small, fake-griever-party, and attendance is a few oil-magnates.

The few Senate members speaking were bribed. They needed someone to speak at the eulogy.

The wore brown bag mask to protect the National Security.

# 1) funeral parlor comment: 'um could spit far their rot-bile?

#2) always drunk and ate those sugar-free donut holes at meals.

#3) he was terrified of good natured people, hoping frogs, terrier pups, cats, harnessed dogs, circular saws, smirking snouzers,

Thursday, July 10, 2008 05:25 PM

I used to think...

That the Simpson's motto for the Democratic was a good-willed poke at the Blue States...now I am afraid it is just spot on..."Democrats: We can't Govern"

Thursday, July 10, 2008 05:40 PM

Silash

You seem to be having difficulty reading. You have posted the relevant law:

the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers, as defined in section 1801 (a)(1), (2), or (3) of this title;

but you don't seem to understand that once a phone call or an email is routed through the US (as most are these days) that this is no longer a "means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers."

When the law was written in the late 70s this wasn't a problem because these communications didn't go through the US. It is purely a language problem as there was never any intent of congress to require warrants for foreign-to-foreign communications. But the FISC objected because the language of the law does not allow warrantless surveillance unless the means of communication is used exclusively between or among foreign powers. Once the communication is routed through the US it is no longer used exclusively between or among foreign powers.

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