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Thursday, July 10, 2008 12:00 AM

Interview with ACLU re: constitutional challenge to new FISA law

Jameel Jaffer, the Director of the ACLU National Security Project, explains why the new FISA law violates the 4th Amendment and is even broader than the President's illegal NSA program

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Friday, July 11, 2008 07:16 PM

Paul Daniel Ash.( a quick in/out )

There is a barber where you are going who gives all Salon readers discounts on T-shirts and green dyed Mohawks. There is also a Pet Smart store where the Lady will wash a pig and put a pink tail on the curled pig tail. e-mail Glenn for the contact and street directions. She sells cute piglets that she bid on at the local butcher auction house, She saves the life of a adorable piglet and spares them from going to the slaughter house. The home has a den filled with blue ribbons she won at the state fairs.

I share blue ribbon wine with her.

No smoke any cigars in her den.

Snuff the cigar on YKW's head.

Stay out of local jail cells. Why?

a sign reads : NO Pigs Allowed.

Drink Aqua Velva Green after shave lotion.

The % of fluid will provide fragrant breath.

It's in Wall Marts. It gives cheap pain relief.

Friday, July 11, 2008 07:16 PM

@Derbig

Your wit is the envy only of your intellect.

Friday, July 11, 2008 07:36 PM

Majorjam.

Dermig Mooser would make a great synagogue cantor. He's a part-time nude sunbather and sun worshiper.

He wears a gold chain locket around his neck with a photo of his last wife waving a loaded, pearl grip pistol.

D.M. mutters at lewd politicians at the lewd beach who don't let the sun shine. What he says is worth attention.

`The pale patch under the politico's locket, containing the illicit romper mistress/whatever, was never taken off when they lay lewd.

Friday, July 11, 2008 07:38 PM

At last, shooter242 says something that isn't a lie

to wit, an opinion:

As far as I'm concerned, any thing that crosses the border is open for inspection.

-- shooter242

So, after all the sturm und drang, what we have here is a difference of opinion. Some people would prefer international communications to remain (in the absence of a FISA warrant) private. shooter242 does not prefer that.

But that has no bearing whatsoever on whether the newly amended FISA law allows everything that "crosses the border" to be intercepted, does it?

Friday, July 11, 2008 07:41 PM

On Teh Revolution That Never Comes

Right now, nobody sees any advantage to themselves and their posterity in rising up and girding their loins for (nonviolent) battle with The Man.

Of course that will change, instantaneously, the minute a Democrat and a Black Democrat to boot is assured of ascending to the Throne. Exactly what form the wingnut revolt -- if not Revolution -- will take at that point is hard to discern at this point, but there will no doubt be an uprising of some sort, and most likely it will be put down, perhaps brutally.

To many cheers. From our side.

Right now the wingnuts are sitting pretty. They don't have any reason to be grumpy. "Progressives" simply don't do Revolution, except in the academic sphere and in the abstract. Even then, they are reluctant to rile things up too much; you're never sure where things could lead, and God save us all if we really do descend into Chaos. But the wingnuts most certainly will be grumpy come November if their flyboy isn't way in the lead...

As has often been mentioned, there is no "Left" in this country to speak of at all, and what "Left" there is was mostly coopted by... well, I'm not sure just what. Call it Consumerism. These people are not about to take Tiger Mountain by Strategy, know what I mean?

And as for the Middle, the vast Swing Land, you're not going to get much of a rise out of them. They're too tired and worn out, from working too much and from the crushing burdens of an Ordinary Life. There simply isn't any stomach for storming the Palace gates. No time for it, either.

And what would anyone except the wingnuts revolt over? An endless war in Iraq and Imperial expansion? Uh, no. As much as we may be opposed to these things -- and most Americans are -- they don't directly concern us in ways we can see, taste, experience. Oh yes, it's too bad about all those "pink misted" brown folks, but they're way over there, and it's really not Our Problem. The costs for this expansionism is high, but there's lots of slack in the system. Let the rich just pay their fair share again, and all will be well...

A revolt to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution? Koff. No. Not with all these lawyers doing their level best to convince someone who matters to care. But when you have a "Constitutional Law Professor"/Senator/Aspirant for the Throne essentially voting with his Republican colleagues to eviscerate the 4th Amendment and leave the rest of those pesky clauses and amendments "optional" for the ruling elites, his Palace constitutency, you're not likely to get many of We, the People to rise up to defend the Sacred Document.

The economy? Well, yeah, that might do it, if the Consumerist Society that's been created these last many decades is truly in danger of failing. Despite all the danger signs, right now, it isn't that close to collapse. It looks like the dangers will increase exponentially as we get closer to the election, and will be many opportunities to rise up, but if the foreclosure crisis (it's not a "housing crisis," there's plenty of housing) and the rise in gas prices, and the rise in food prices isn't enough to trigger anything yet, then we've got to ask what it will take.

One of the reasons the Revolution doesn't come is the brutality of the authorities whenever anyone does take to the streets for (mostly) peaceful protest or even just to rally. It's been one rubber bullet, tear gas, mace, and truncheon fest after another, despite huge Free Mumia events that have gone off without (or nearly without) a single busted head. Most Americans are no longer equipped to deal with official overreactions and just avoid the whole public protest thing altogether so as not to get caught up in something they can't handle.

The Media ignores it anyway, when they're not mocking and poking fun.

Russian Revolutionaries spent the better part of a century storming the Winter Palace and getting shot down, skewered, hanged, exiled to Siberia and whatnot before it was possible to depose the Tsar. And then it was only possible due to dumb luck, a disastrous foreign war, and madness running rampant in the Alexander Palace.

The Soviet Empire crumbled quite differently and almost without a shot being fired. "People Power." With a little assistance from various interests.

Both the Romanovs and the Soviets were old and worn out, tired, exhausted, and our New Imperium is still fresh and robust. It was very weak soon after the Busheviks seized the government, and it could have been stopped right then. Some of us tried, or at least tried to convince those who might have been able to do something about it in Congress to do something about it, and we got nowhere and we got nothing but a blank stare.

They weren't interested in "doing something" about it in those days (it wouldn't even have taken impeachment back then) and they aren't interested now.

They have merged with the Borg, and they have made it very clear they are quite comfortable to be assimilated.

Why don't we get right with the System, too?

We'd be so much happier.

(Psst: 42)

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