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Even though it may in many ways be wishful thinking, Keith's comments were thoughtful and hopeful (the election isn't till November - can't we wait another month before being totally disappointed with Obama). Glenn's comments were, as usual,comprehensively insightful and fearless. I live in Illinois and have voted for Obama three times (two primaries and a general) and can say he is above all else a pragmatist. When that pragmatism gets to the point (as I believe it did with the Clintons) where you don't stand for anything, then it is time to give up on someone who is only running to get elected. I will vote for Obama again and hope as Keith does and pressure as Glenn advises.