If there's anything that can hold Obama to task, it is cutting off the flow of money to his campaign. He will listen when his main source of money dries, small donors, dries up.

If there's a lesson to be had from this campaign, it is that we the people need to force ourselves on these candidates, not the other way around. So pull your money away, and tell Obama to vote for the people and against FISA in July.

Nutella... Linda....

Lost of spin here, folks. No one is going to argue that Obama is not far-left. You're running against months-years of reporting, and political evaluations.

Besides that if Obama turned on the left George Soros would have him for lunch - and I don't mean setting at a table.

America may vote him in as President, but he will be clearly identified as a Liberal, and his success or failure will be tied to that tag. That, is called 'Accountability'.

My guess from the context is that Allie Mann was taking a rhetorical shortcut, and by "not very bright" meant that most of the electorate is not especially tolerant, for various reasons, of the lengthy or nuanced political expository, debate, or analysis usually needed when giving the rationale for progressive ideas. In contrast, modern GOP ideas have lent themselves to gut appeals and slogans ("you're either for us or against us" or "Unfair Death Tax" or War on Terror!!!, for example).

At least, it seems that way to my not very bright noggin.

Obama has</> turned on the left with his cave-in on FISA so George Soros must have taken him apart already, if Historybuff's patronizing declarations are correct.

I sure would like to see some Accountability but I think we need to start with the current administration.

Have you all noticed that you can identify most neocon trolls by their capitalization? Normal people do not capitalize simple descriptive noun phrases like Accountability or Patriot or War on Terror. Anyone who does that is over-simplifying, to put it mildly.

In many ways this kind of traces back to Bill Clinton, who was in his own right the Great Triangulator. The person who could pick up the Republican issues and run with them. Unfortunately every Democrat has tried to do that ever since Clinton...and they have failed miserably.

Barry Goldwater once said, “I will offer a choice, not an echo”, and it appeared for awhile during the primaries he was doing just that. Now make no must I never believed that Obama was gonna all of sudden morph into Russ Feingold...but I did hope for something in the ball park. I did hope that maybe I would get a real choice this time...and while I could handle his stances the current Supreme Court decisions on the death penalty and Gun Control I cannot agree with him on this issue. Or as Obama would say, "Democrats should not act like Bush Republicans!"

Now I have no intention to vote for John McCain in Nov., nor do I intend on voting for Barr, Nader, or any of the other third party candidates. However, if all the Democrats plan to do is repeat Bill Clinton...then count me out I've already seen this rerun. I mean if the Democrats still can't see the point of being an opposition party in a system of checks and balances....then why even have a Democratic Party?

"If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

- John F. Kennedy

A move to the center? Obama's FISA is a move to the right and Glenn has been impressively proving it for awhile now.A move to the center? Obama's FISA is a move to the right and Glenn has been impressively proving it for awhile now.

The problem with centrist pundits like Joe Klein is that they don't understand how their center has shifted because the Republicans have gone off the deep end after 9/11. It's like a table cloth that gets pulled to one side too much, where its center is now ain't where it was before. So people once on the center are now to the right. Klein, who still thinks he is at the center of the table, sees the anti-telecom amnesty as a leftist position that will alienate voters in the center. But since he no longer is in the center, he is actually on the right side of the table now and only sees this issue in terms that the right sees it as being soft on National Security. Glenn has done a masterful job in proving how Klein is on the right now.

National Security isn't Obama's achilles heel, his inexperience is and if McCain can tie this into a narrative that show that he is too young to lead, then it will be a problem for him. This flip-flop on FISA gives McCain a chance to do so because it pulls Obama into turning to accept a position that agrees with George Bush, so McCain will be pushing the "we told you so theme" for all it is worth.

Maybe someone already mentioned this. I've only read the last two pages of the comments.

I just fled a couple of bipolar Farmer Buffs. They are insisting they are happy to stare at the pendulum swing back and forth on a old antique grandfather clock. What a world. gads.

They love history too, and each second is a flight toward____ ! Where all bright snobs do go?

The farm therapist says it's time to go via retraining. The utterly failed bipolar agrarians blame the history buffs who are bragging how well they were weaned from the liberal teat long ago.

How did they get to know just about NOTHING?

Have "right-wingers" minds been of use throughout history? The complaint: The self-arrogant, get to rob the laborers of everything. Conservatives are sitting down @ the Salon mid-night snack to chat, and be seated, according to table neuroses.

The therapist honor system is in motion.

Gordon? You may sit on Pedinska's lap.

Sit her at the center table as a centrist.

(P.S.)

It's way too humid. Ya's sweat like a fish.