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Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:00 AM

The baseless, and failed, "move to the center" cliche

Why do Democrats continue to follow the same strategic advice that has produced one failure after the next?

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Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:53 PM

The next time fbi agent Sonny calls....

I may report 242? There are good people within every government agency. The FBI ain't impressed if some pain in the neck, paid troll, a smart aleck twit? Yes. YKW, and is undermining the nation they (government employees) love and wish to protect for their children, cousins, uncles etc., And lovers.

A FBI agent is a human. hey also needs to feed a household, pay a mortgage, a patiently collect that United States Treasury check.

O, keep those Austin Texas checks rolling my way? huh. To bring up their (FBI etc.,) name?

(o boy, i know the fbi guys and gals is thinking that can be a blatant insult) 9?), and to hide under a fed kilt skirt? o disgusting.

I often hold back a 'pearl' and a insult.

A aphorism, or an analogy, can break down. I'll think of a wake-up jolt. Humph. Let a 155 artillery round cut a "friendly" g.i.'s, poor dang head, clear off? OUCH.

O, 2,4, or two 155's rounds make "mush" that pink inside a UV painted dessert sand. BOOM!

That detonated weapon we sold to Sadame O. is unguarded munitions. A Wall Street (Bull) made big mulla from that 155 BOOM!

Sad.

And because the munition storage bunkers were not safe guarded... when Iraq was invaded, 0- when we invaded Iraq. FORGET?

For a love of Gaud, o~ Sake, Why not?

The pump-jacks and staff from the State Department were busy carting off Byzantine era, the BC Treasures. Gold Loot. The organized looting employed the Bush Regimes full time.

The analogy for a wake up?

Poke a dupe or pink tongue.

Poke where?

Poke both if yoo please? Poke '`them`' inside a 220-electrical plug.

YOW WEE. (that's worst than a wasp sting) Ouch. It swells. I am serious.

Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:57 PM

The (possibly) Silver Lining in the (definitely) Dark Cloud

Thanks again, Glenn, for playing advocate and scholar to Olbermann's hero-worshipping cheerleader.

While Obama's shift on FISA has all the hallmarks of the classic failed "move to the center", the sheer awkward lameness of this whole dodge suggests something besides political posturing for votes is going on.

Think of the muddled and uncharacteristic incoherence of his position (apparent in the felt need of his more imaginative partisans to concoct far-fetched and conflicting explanations of his behavior), his clumsy use of national security as an excuse for supporting the indefensible, i.e., telecom immunity, and, most revealing, his failure to follow up with a more convincing rationale when a firestorm of criticism ensues.

To understand what is happening, we need to look behind the positions and arguments to the many pressures evidently being brought to bear on a very talented, highly principled, but uniquely vulnerable nominee.

The need for party unity in a party famous for dissent and disorganization, the desire of a young upstart and relative outsider to show party elders he'll listen to their advice and take their interests to heart, the pleading of party members whose own reputations might be damaged by the telecom civil suits, and, not least, the generosity and threats of influential lobbyists whose support is still indispensable, to members of Congress if not Obama himself - I would suggest these imperatives are behind Obama’s otherwise puzzling and wholly unnecessary public support for HR6304, and not some blundering tactical veering to the Right.

I would argue this is in fact the precious metal interior of the threatening Cumulus of this whole episode. I do not believe Obama has been seduced by the beltway swansong and is now listening to the counsel of fools. That would be truly unnerving. I think he has been caught in a particularly sticky web, one not of his own making, that for reasons of expediency he cannot tear apart, and whose twisted and embarrassing existence, under the circumstances, he cannot even reveal.

I hope – and yes, this conclusion does require clinical levels of optimism – that this ridiculous and shameful affair will only reinforce Obama’s stated commitment to open and fearless advocacy, transparent accountability, and direct and honest dealing in public life, whatever his true views of the 4th Amendment might be.

Sunday, June 29, 2008 01:02 PM

Dems don't know what they want to be.

So being vaguely neither this nor that feels like a safe bet. I mean how many Muslim midget lesbian Marxist vegan handicapped single mom black brown dyslexic autistic can you fit on the bandstand before it caves in?

Sunday, June 29, 2008 01:04 PM

Howard Dean vs. John Kerry?

Really, so we Democrats picked John Kerry because Howard Dean wouldn't "move to the 'center'"? Here I was thinking it was because Howard Dean was the sort of inexperienced person who would insult white Southerners, insult stock car racing fans, and embrace the Confederate States of America, not realizing what he was doing.

Also he had poor control of his flushing reflex. This was visible in debates.

I supported Kerry, but the lesson isn't that Democrats should have picked Howard Dean over John Kerry. The lesson is that they should have nominated John Edwards.

Sunday, June 29, 2008 01:09 PM

@ suenj97

Sue - NJ is ranked #4 nationally in repeat flood claims for the same property in the federal flood insurance program. When a property is destroyed by flooding, the State DEP allows them to rebuild - but they rebuild an even LARGER properyy, putting more people and property value in harms way. Its absurd. The "right" to rebuild is in NJ Coastal Zone management law called CAFRA.

NJ allows all kinds of inappropriate development in highly flood and storm prone locations along the shore and in inland river floodplains.

NJ program is a disaster in itself.

Just sayin'

Sunday, June 29, 2008 01:15 PM

WE ARE MAD AS HELL AND WE AREN'T . . .

wait a minute . . . moving to the center sounds ever so reassuring.

Never mind.

Sunday, June 29, 2008 01:16 PM

Paul Rosenberg yesterday

http://openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6656

Obama's sudden lurch to the right is all in accord with one of Versailles' most treasured, and most bogus narratives, the claim that America is a "center-right" country, and thus that it's both natural and necessary for any Democrat to attack the party's base and trample the things it believes in.

- - Paul Rosenberg

Sunday, June 29, 2008 01:16 PM

@veteran novice gets it

Repeat - repart - repeat:

Franklin D. Roosevelt announces the Second New Deal in 1936:

"…For twelve years this Nation was afflicted with hear-nothing, see-nothing, do-nothing Government. The Nation looked to Government but the Government looked away. Nine mocking years with the golden calf and three long years of the scourge! Nine crazy years at the ticker and three long years in the breadlines! Nine mad years of mirage and three long years of despair! Powerful influences strive today to restore that kind of government with its doctrine that that Government is best which is most indifferent…"

…"We had to struggle with the old enemies of peace--business and financial monopoly, speculation, reckless banking, class antagonism, sectionalism, war profiteering."

"They had begun to consider the Government of the United States as a mere appendage to their own affairs. We know now that Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob."

"Never before in all our history have these forces been so united against one candidate as they stand today. They are unanimous in their hate for me--and I welcome their hatred."

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