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Saturday, June 21, 2008 12:00 AM

Obama's support for the FISA "compromise"

There are many important lessons from yesterday's announcement that he now supports a warrantless eavesdropping and telecom amnesty bill

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Sunday, June 22, 2008 05:18 AM

GoodCelery

Thanks for the offer!

I'm going to stick around and see how this plays out. I haven't started my job search, yet. I love this country, but I'm ashamed of it, too. I'm reminded of the old right-wing taunt: America, love it or leave it. If McCain wins, those are my only two choices. It's not a decision I've come to lightly, and I'm more than half-serious, I'm as serious as an offshore Cuban concentration camp.

But I'll take a raincheck.

Sunday, June 22, 2008 05:21 AM

Erratum

My mistake. I just rechecked the text of HR 6304. I was too generous in my description. As per 702(a), The secret court's secret approval of the secret plan allows the snoopers to play in the sandbox unsupervised for a year, not for six months:

(a) Authorization- Notwithstanding any other provision of law, upon the issuance of an order in accordance with subsection (i)(3) or a determination under subsection (c)(2), the Attorney General and the Director of National Intelligence may authorize jointly, for a period of up to 1 year from the effective date of the authorization, the targeting of persons reasonably believed to be located outside the United States to acquire foreign intelligence information.

Subsec (i)(3) is the clause governing FISA review of the plan. Subsec (c)(2) is the clause giving the AG an "exigency" escape clause for stuff he wants to do before getting the FISAC's permission.

The court's review, incidentally, is expressly limited to determining that the plan does not "target" US persons abroad, and does not deliberately acquire communications "known at the time of acquisition" to be from and to persons entirely within the United States. Thus, for example, if the program simply acquires every single communication, domestic or foreign, passing through a switch, before it's known which are purely domestic, the court would be required to sign off on it. The sole safequard against that in the bill is the requirement in 702 (b)(5):

(5) shall be conducted in a manner consistent with the fourth amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

How quaint.

Sunday, June 22, 2008 05:23 AM

To all those thinking of moving to Canada, isn't the PM of Canada a man called Harper?

I haven't really checked but I think that the party in power is Conservative. The British monarchy also has some constitutional role in Canada but it's probably only "window-dressing". Suit yourselves but there's no Shangri-La anywhere on this planet. Flights to Mars may be available in the next decade or so, if you can hang on that long.

Sunday, June 22, 2008 05:25 AM

@nicole p

If you didn't sound so very proud of yourself for being the oh so rare and wise one for downing the red pill--I might not have such a strong ick response. "All you have to do is acccept the truth and try to create change yourself?" Come on, that's the most simplistic and trite advice I've heard in awhile. Either/or is simply not acceptable for those active in politics. It's a constant and difficult interplay between both.

When you get that call, stand fast, don't let that rhetorical, dazzling, speechifying sway you from the truth on this one.

Madam,

This is rank insubordination, and on the eve of Commander adnoto's march on Washington to take and hold the capital. What kind of sedition is this? Don't you love your country? Don't you want to save it from the evil that is consuming it from within? All we need to do is put our warm bodies in Washington and stand there milling around, defecating and urinating in the streets and dropping from dehydration, until the stench and the mess and ambulance and hospital bills brings the government to its knees. Then...

Freedom!

Single issue politics cannot hold this system hostage. It can manipulate the system when used by savvy and sophisticated political strategists, but that's not what we have here, at least not yet. What we have here are a bunch of angry and emotional children who can't see past their own noses. Single issue parties are rarely successful in gaining elected office. It is more effective in parliamentary systems based on proportional representation than in rigid two-party systems like we have here. If you need any proof of this, just llok at the Stunning Successes of the Libertarian Party or Mike Peroutka's Constitution Party. Oh my, let's not forget the Prohibiton Party! Commander adnoto's plan for a revolution, an American Political Renewal, reminds me of the Underpants Gnome's plan. They have a three-phase business plan, consisting of:

  • Collect underpants
  • ?
  • Profit!

Commander adnoto's plan for change:

  • Take Washington, D.C.
  • ?
  • Change!
Sunday, June 22, 2008 05:29 AM

242's sequential unfolding? (Shame on whoever pays yoo to sell-out)

shoots more spittle.

asp. sigh. absurdity.

groggy. amazement.

I won't go into details.

scandalous. cruel. silly.

spurts. whoop. insanity.

Wine of human honesty?

groan. whimper. blabber.

gasp. humph. phooey. guff.

yelp. duh. what foul stuttering.

ooh. my sore hart. O a scream.

The theatricality is fun and pain.

sigh. sheik. each civilization crashes.

shriek. A siren sounds and it's ignored.

Sunday, June 22, 2008 05:32 AM

There's conservative, and there's bloodthirsty fascist, Maureen

Canada's brand of conservatism is practically socialism, compared to right wing fascists like McCain.

I'm well aware Canada is no paradise. I've been paying more attention to their politics, of late (wonder why?). Taxes in Canada are insane, and I'll miss a lot of American conveniences, that's for sure.

But, I'll have a clean conscience, and Canada probably won't get nuked by Iran or Korea. Double bonus.

Sunday, June 22, 2008 05:40 AM

No...

No, it's hard to tell because it is in the best interest of those trying to pacify you to keep the actual issues murky.

It actually is "murky". And that's why it has limited appeal to the mass of the electorate even if there were not so many other more pressing "kitchen table" issues distracting them now. As a wedge issue it has split the right, and to our benefit. You folks probably can't split the left now and reverse all the progress we've made but you should think about how to use this single issue wedge wisely in future primary and election battles. This is all just a bunch of stupid whining and whinging and stamping of little tiny feet. Wasted time and energy and resources and it only helps McCain.

Sunday, June 22, 2008 05:47 AM

renegade Iconoclast. I hear your heart.

Besides. The windshield wipers don't work. They squeak. Maybe walk in wet sneakers? We can pack up some chewy snicker candy bars and eat green pickles? If it's cld we can enjoy beans and toad-food chili? No spell chili, chilly.

A agree. If you Love ya's nation or feller-inhabitants ya's desire to sweat it out, ya's labor (sigh) well, and groan like a one who gives birth to a innocent lump baby. I hear your good heart sing.

Hope. If we played ball for the Atlantic Braves, we could walk with teats. Maybe we/yoo and other GOPS will soon wake-up. O Hope. I agree we identify and have human empathy. Let's aim to identify with a commander-in-chief.... The Hopi Native elder Commander-in Chief did have a word of advice and clear voice. Walk with the workers who may have worn-out the moccasins.

We do what we can at proper times.

A apple on a silver platter is for you.

Stay and improve the'our collective lot.

Foil the devious Lies and plots that ruin.

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