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Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00 AM

What Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer and Fred Hiatt mean by "bipartisanship"

Even the GOP, the media establishment and many Democrats themselves are openly mocking the claims by Pelosi and Hoyer that they "negotiated" a "bipartisan compromise."

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Saturday, June 21, 2008 07:15 AM

William Timberman. etc.,

Thank you also:

If I could trust anybody to sit on a dozen donated quail-bird or ostrich-bird eggs in a sand pile...

And make certain the good eggs hatch....

You the sure one!

Saturday, June 21, 2008 07:20 AM

WT

When I was in college, my girlfriend gave me a little red lapel pin she'd acquired on a trip to Moscow. It bore an image of "Baby Lenin". I wonder where that darn thing is?

Saturday, June 21, 2008 07:22 AM

@R.M.P.

Thanks for the link! I am afraid General Taguba will be a voice in the wilderness. I have an alternative narrative explaining the Democrats' actions. Namely they're following the idea that Bush & Co are guilty only of policy errors. What they're doing seems like capitulation to us, because we see much of this as criminal rather than policy error.

I believe that all that Obama is going to do, if he is successful in his bid for the Presidency, is redistribute the bread-and-circuses. He is not going to (and never was going to, we bad, our mistake for thinking otherwise) change the notion that government officials only commit policy errors, and not criminal actions.

The idea that the United States Government can possibly be complicit in criminal acts is an idea Obama explicitly discarded along with his one-time pastor Rev. Wright.

If you understand this then there is nothing to be disappointed in about Obama. There are only a handful of politicians, Kucinich among them, who know that the government can be criminal, and then it needs to be held to account by impeachment or by trials.

Saturday, June 21, 2008 07:27 AM

@Peter Maranci

Please, no jokes. I've pretty much lost all hope for the future of this country right now, and I'm just not in the mood for levity.

-- Peter Maranci

Cynthia McKinney is the Green Party candidate, and just to give you a little quick background, she introduced articles of impeachment against Shrub even before Dennis Kucinich. She would be a far better shot than Nader, who proved that his campaign is all about him and not actually trying to establish a third party.

Here's the party platform:

http://www.gp.org/platform/2004/

As you'll see, the platform resembles that of the Democratic Party -- before it sold out its values to try to appear as GOP Lite.

Sure, McKinney won't win, and here in Illinois, even 100,000 votes for her won't be enough to keep Obama from winning the state. (There's your pragmatism, centrists.) But in 2006, Rich Whitney got more than 10 percent of the vote for governor. It's small, but support seems to be growing. So, if you don't like the Purples (and doesn't Obama's shift to the right actually make them the Magentas?) and neither Nader nor Barr strikes your fancy (rightfully so), check out the Greens.

Saturday, June 21, 2008 07:30 AM

Because of Glenn Greenwald's tolerance.... (For Pete's sake. Pete is a good layer of chicken eggs. If lawyers needs some nap-down time. I'll rent (not LWM), him a chicken shack at a nice sandy beach...out/over. Hospitality!

Not to mention the "nuisance" comments from YKW.

I ask Glenn for forgiveness. Maybe Glenn can do this?:

GG will Shave his head to be cool in the summer heat.

He needs to wear a green kilt? GG needs to rest in shade.

I hope he don't get worn out. I can donate a red lobster and a hen.

Saturday, June 21, 2008 07:38 AM

How to throw your vote away ...

So someone writes "I'm as upset and heartbroken about this as the next netroots person. But Obama is still our candidate. voting for a 3rd party at this point, is to throw our vote away."

Yeah, right, for the last seven years I have been working to make sure that Bush gets kicked out at all cost because of his disregard for the law, and now I am being told that the candidate who will legalize the lawbreaking program is "our candidate". (Ah, but he _says_ he's against telecom immunity. Right, just like Bush says that he is against torture.) Why not just say that McCain is "our candidate" and assert that to not vote for him "is to throw our vote away." People really have to get a reality check.

I can already see the more dainty and impressionable among pundit minds praising Obama for being such a serious politician, someone who's willing to prove his toughness by really sticking it to those who care for the constitution and the rule of law. What ferocity, what ambition, just what America needs!

The one way to really throw your vote away and ensure that what you care about will remain "off the table" is to vote for pathetic clowns like Obama even as they oppose you on the most fundamental issues. If you agree with Nader, vote for Nader for heaven's sake, or all you'll ever achieve in politics is your own political irrelevance.

Saturday, June 21, 2008 07:44 AM

G'mornin' folks

Man. I feel like I have the worst kind of hang over. Had to pick my way carefully down the stairs, and grimaced when the dogs barked a greeting.

Yesterday was just a bit intense. I was emotionally wrung by the time I finished cruising the various threads around the more progressive blog sites. They read a lot like the one here. I suppose it's an interesting indicator of how invested folks are in this election. Obama does indeed ride a tiger.

As the number goes up, the feeling of responsibility to make shrewd decisions about how to use that increases, too. I can't tell you how many people I've heard from -- both in comments here and especially via email -- say that they never donated to a political cause in their entire lives until the donation they made to this, or who say that they stretched themselves beyond their financial limits to donate. I want to make sure to maximize the impact of their actions. -GG

I've been doing some quick math around the numbers. I'd kept track of the donations and numbers donating for the Carney ads. Following forward it seems that more people are donating, and the average donation is greater than for Carney alone. Mona had exhorted her readers to give 'til it hurts, and apparently people are. I appreciate your concern Glenn, and like William Timberman, I'm sure the money is in good hands.

Now, I'm off to go hammer the cranks on my bike. This is the only I know to burn off yesterday's residual adrenalin. Or, whatever damned array of hormones makes my head feel full of cotton wool. Thanks for all you're doing, Glenn. Feels good to be a part of something bigger than myself.

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