Why didn't Sheehan post that message on DailyKos herself? That's right, she got banned from there when she made it clear that she was going to challenge Pelosi. Why was she banned? Because, you guessed it, she was challenging a Democrat and DailyKos is all about the superduper duper strategy of "ELECTING DEMOCRATS" and Sheehan can't be rocking the boat!

http://cindysheehan.dailykos.com/

lurker10k,

That particular war game was geared specifically for a Naval battle in the Straits. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to understand war strategy to any degree because you simply lack the experience necessary to carry on this debate. Yes, I've been there in the Gulf a few times and I, unlike you, actually do know what I'm talking about. How stupid would the Navy be to parade our ships through the Straits of Hormuz as giant targets for the little Iranian speedboats to attack? Answer, very stupid! The Straits are Iran's only advantage and we would quickly neutralize it. Basic common sense. I don't expect you to comprehend it.

Senator Barack Obama today announced he would work to alter an unacceptable FISA bill currently headed for the senate. A statement issued by Obama today stated that the bill "grants retroactive immunity, and I will work in the Senate to remove this provision so that we can seek full accountability for past offenses."

...etc

Is anyone surprised by Obama's statement? I love the first bit and rationale, Given the grave threats that we face. Between that and some in the blogosphere predicting a 9/11- or Pearl Harbor-like attack, is it any wonder that we haven't lost more civil liberties? This is the psychological damage I referenced last night--this idea that since 9/11, we base our policy initiatives on "grave danger." (And Tempus, before you call me names again, please review systems theory.)

But back to my point: Presidential candidates and the decisions they make happen within a corrupt culture and a corrupt organization. No matter how noble the candidate, s/he often must commit an agentic shift (i.e., letting external controls permeate their decision-making rather than listening to internal controls) to be a viable candidate. Contrast this action with someone like Dennis Kucinich who does a pretty good job of listening to internal controls, but is scorned by many.

Please don't construe anything I've said to mean that I'm letting Obama off the hook for this. I'm not. I'm just saying that it's predictable.

Maybe Adnoto should be saying one step forward and three steps back. Or four, in honor of our beloved Fourth Amendment.

Hey Obama - nice little fundraising operation you got there......wouldn't want anything to happen to it now, would we? Well, I'm one donor who you can cross off the list. Don't bother calling me Barry -- I'll call you.

Well, I guess you've inspired some people with your rhetoric. But you haven't done much for me. When I voted for you recently, I was just voting against Hillary.

I absolutely will NOT donate to you, you coward.

I'm also seriously considering not voting for you, Barry, although I admit you've got me between a rock and hard place on that one.

Oh god oh god oh god this is completely insane Obama WHAT IS THE DEAL.

I think I'm going to be needing some bourbon now as well...

But I'm not about to discontinue supporting Obama even if he is engaging in an utterly cynical weasel step.

The consequences if he FAILS to be elected are certainly worse than what anything that happened today.

Until and unless the public is thoroughly educated about these issues, this sort of setback is going to be as regualr as sunrises. To, that end however, the Hoyer ad is certainly money well spent.

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Take care and better days to you. Better days to all of us....

Actually, the only rational thing I can do is take my six year old son to the local park and watch him play around for awhile.

Maybe after that I'll be in a better frame of mind.

May I suggest everyone else do the same before we go writing off the future?

You worry warts. It's all part of the plan, amirite!? That Obama is one crafty crypto-muslim.

Bring on the Obamapologists imo.

And Adnoto, one step back is exactly the direction LWM would like to go. Back to the good old days that a youngster like you couldn't possibly relate to or something. But why stop there? LWM would probably like to take many mane steps back, back to the dawn of civilization where the authoritarian LWM can carve LWM's laws into stone and be King of the World.

But why isn't this Obama statement viewed as a real opportunity. He's offering a lever for pressure, it seems. Take him up on it--screw down on his upcoming performance in the Senate. Talk it up--repeat what he himself has announced publicly--pressure him.

The vote to take out immunity is just theater. Reid is already saying as much - they know it's going to fail. It's just designed to give cover to Obama so he can vote against amnesty, but then, when that fails, vote for the whole "compromise" and say it was the best he could get.

In February of this year I received a letter from my congressional representative, John Yarmuth. In that letter Mr. Yarmuth told me:

"It is time for us to remember the principles of liberty that our nation was founded on, and reject unlawful measures that jeopardize our rights and civil liberties. Please be assured I will continue to do all that I can toward this end."

Today Representative Yarmuth voted with 105 other Democrats to eviscerate the 4th amendment.

I called his office a short while ago and told them to tell him that he no longer has my vote.

Anybody have a copy of the cliff's notes of the Constitution that they can lend to our politicians?

Man, the collapse of the Grand Experiment really has me flustered.

Can't even recognize satire on some days.

I predict that bourbon sales are going to dramatically increase as the elections cycle goes on. More specifically, I guarantee that bourbon sales will increase if I have anything to do with it.

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