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Friday, June 20, 2008 12:00 AM

What Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer and Fred Hiatt mean by "bipartisanship"

Even the GOP, the media establishment and many Democrats themselves are openly mocking the claims by Pelosi and Hoyer that they "negotiated" a "bipartisan compromise."

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Friday, June 20, 2008 01:34 PM

Watch out!

That Obama statement...

-- GlennGreenwald

Well yeah, I do feel like a cartoon character with the head vibrating after haven been hit with a hammer or frying pan.

Zoingggggggggg.....

Friday, June 20, 2008 01:35 PM

Trying to help?

0(starting postion) + 1(step fwd) - 2(steps back) = -1 (one step behind your starting position)

I'm trying to help. -- EMStoveken

That is what you call trying to help? Chastising the leaders of the UT "more and better" democrats movement? Pointing out that one step forward and two steps back actually equals -1? Who do you think you are? Well I don't care. I will have to check out the veracity of your claim but I still say more and better democrats. That is the only serious option. Where will we be if we don't elect more of them? Things like this telecom amnesty bill will be the new normal, business as usual if we don't work as hard as we can to elect more and better democrats.

Friday, June 20, 2008 01:35 PM

Sen. Obama Fails

His first time out of the gate and he folded. I just called the campaign and asked to have my account deleted. I will no longer support him. I guess, for the first time, I will have no dog in the hunt this election cycle. Sadly, I don't think Hillary would have done any better as she has been silent on this issue also.

Adding insult to injury, I recv'd an email from Pelosi today from a DCCC email box, asking for money. That takes a lot of damn gall. Too bad she didn't use that brazeness to squash this abortion called FISA.

I guess now it doesn't matter who wins in November as no matter who it is, they won't uphold the Constitution or truly represent the American people. What a sad day this is.

Lori

Friday, June 20, 2008 01:36 PM

Bucks4

You've betrayed yourself - you are a troll. Iran has nothing resembling a Navy, little more than speedboats- yet you surmise you're smarter than the Generals who "fixed" the war game. You served over there? Hmmmmm? If so, you weren't paying much attention. Don't respond, I won't.

Friday, June 20, 2008 01:36 PM

poor baby

"@EMStoveken

Hey man... adnoto's yanking your chain.

Between rufus and adnoto it's getting like Swampland around here. I think i need to go drink some lunch...

-- Paul Daniel Ash"

aawwwww. Do you want a cookie? Would that stop yoru constant pc police and complaining?

Friday, June 20, 2008 01:39 PM

oooowwww. A shout out of sheehan, glen. she's already running.

"On the very heels of Nancy Pelosi's House giving George Bush more money than he asked for to fund the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan for another year, Nancy Pelosi's House grants blanket immunity to telecomm companies who have conspired to spy on Americans with the Bush regime. Denny Hastert's Republican House wouldn't even do it and now read Glenn Greenwald's great article below explaining how Nancy Pelosi's House gives the Bush regime even more than they asked for (again).

This picture of her smiling lovingly at George Bush says it all. He is a liar, a murderer, a torturer, a thief and a criminal in the narrowest confines of the word, but Nancy Pelosi, who knew about his torture policies as early as 2002, adores him and as a conspirator with him, will not impeach him against the will of the people of this district and the nation.

Have you had enough yet? How many clauses and amendments to the Constitution will the Bush-Pelosi team destroy before you say "enough is enough?" How many wars? How many needless deaths? How many foreclosures? How high gas? How many jobs lost to outsourcing or recession? How much longer can we allow the degradation of our environment to proceed?

Cindy for Congress said "enough is enough" months ago and we would be honored if you would join us in sending a clear message to Congress: No more business as usual. Dozens of San Francisco residents have called or e-mailed our office today. Many "life long" Democrats have informed us they are leaving the party. The "business" of this nation is not "business" it's the people and the people are being oppressed and impoverished while the Bushes and Pelosis of this world prosper." (emphasis added.)

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http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/20/162617/988/739/539282

Friday, June 20, 2008 01:40 PM

Damn

I cannot begin to express my disappointment in Obama's statement. The right answer on this - the principled answer - is such a no brainer. That a former constitutional law professor would come out on the issue this way just makes me sick.

Friday, June 20, 2008 01:40 PM

That Obama Statement

That Obama statement will easily bring out a little bit of the adnoto in all of us.

There's been no shortage of the adnoto. But why isn't this Obama statement viewed as a real opportunity. He's offering a lever for pressure, it seems. Take him up on it--screw down on his upcoming performance in the Senate. Talk it up--repeat what he himself has announced publicly--pressure him.

That's what my inner adnotos are screaming at me right now. Of course, they're also holding a locked-chain protest, and fire-bombing my stomach-lining...

Friday, June 20, 2008 01:40 PM

Well played Adnoto

Man, the collapse of the Grand Experiment really has me flustered.

Can't even recognize satire on some days.

I predict that bourbon sales are going to dramatically increase as the elections cycle goes on. More specifically, I guarantee that bourbon sales will increase if I have anything to do with it.

Don't mind me. Posting at work has its disadvantages.

Friday, June 20, 2008 01:41 PM

John Yarmuth - Traitor

In February of this year I received a letter from my congressional representative, John Yarmuth. In that letter Mr. Yarmuth told me:

"It is time for us to remember the principles of liberty that our nation was founded on, and reject unlawful measures that jeopardize our rights and civil liberties. Please be assured I will continue to do all that I can toward this end."

Today Representative Yarmuth voted with 105 other Democrats to eviscerate the 4th amendment.

I called his office a short while ago and told them to tell him that he no longer has my vote.

Friday, June 20, 2008 01:41 PM

cliff's notes

Anybody have a copy of the cliff's notes of the Constitution that they can lend to our politicians?

Friday, June 20, 2008 01:42 PM

casual_observer

But why isn't this Obama statement viewed as a real opportunity. He's offering a lever for pressure, it seems. Take him up on it--screw down on his upcoming performance in the Senate. Talk it up--repeat what he himself has announced publicly--pressure him.

The vote to take out immunity is just theater. Reid is already saying as much - they know it's going to fail. It's just designed to give cover to Obama so he can vote against amnesty, but then, when that fails, vote for the whole "compromise" and say it was the best he could get.

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