Oh I realize there is no convincing the closed minded left of anything outside their version of reality, include you I suppose. I don't expect to accomplish that by any means but I will enjoy giving the more fair and balanced perspective on this blog since you folks can't seem to manage it.

Cretin, huh? That is a new one for today. Not bad, but still weak.

"Unless you have something of substance to add,"

-- bucks4mccain

There an extremely low possibility that anyone but you thinks you have added anything of "substance" all day.

You people are such losers....

Coming from the career loser? That's almost a compliment.

I just love the sound of weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth in the morning.

Take the ear-pods off and try listening to people who know what they're talking about for a change.

Meanwhile the Democrat penchant for ignoring national problems in favor of personal enrichment is exemplified today in the Subprime Six led by Senator Chris Dodd.

Pardon me while I laugh. Ha ha.

http://www.freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=2569

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/laland/the_subprime_six_1/index.html

Pardon me while I laugh again. Ha ha.

Why, conflicts of interest are against the law! They are absolutely guilty and should be sent to jail immediately. Oh, oooops. That's only for Republicans.

Pretty much, yeah. What? You don't believe in the rule of law. Color us all surprised.

Heh.

Get new material, will you? This is getting old.

PS. That is one butt-ugly ad.

But accurate. Tough on you.

Ass.

Wow, you really are a compelling arguer, aren't you? I can see lots of people being persuaded by your sneers.

If you think this principle (4th amendment, telecom lawbreaking, government above the law) is worth laughing about, then you don't have any principles worth a damn.

--Ron

<<I have to laugh at all the anger in here today over your cherished Democratic party siding with the Republicans on this bill. You far left folks really are the new minority in this country. Enjoy your unhappiness, there is plenty more to come.

>>

The operative conjecture is that he sold out to the perceived interests of other congressional dems who needed to hide their own enabling role in repub illegalities. He is now their leader.

PS BucksfromMcCain: didn't you say you had to go to your other job?

I hope that was clear.

Unless you have something of substance to add, from here on out, I'll be ignoring your mindless drivel. Put your binky back in your mouth.

Just what is wrong with you???!!! The amount of energy and space you are devoting to this cretin AND THAT"S ALL HE WANTS!! He wants you to get angry, he wants you to call him names, etc. What's the point?????

On another level, concerning Obama. I think its interesting the amount of screed that is just now coming his way in some quarters. I know that FISA is one of the most important issues facing us, and certainly one that concerns me both on a poltical level and personally. That being said, the man basically prostrated himself in front of AIPAC a few weeks ago--certainly a clue to what kind of leader he would be. Thus, his FISA dodge, especially considering the fact that he voted for Dodd's anti-immunity without voting against the final bill (that was also a big clue)should not be considered anything new. I doubt Glenn ever bought into Obama's hype, but most of Glenn's coverage has also been primarily from the perspective of how differently he has been treated on certain issues than other candidates. Obviously, I preferred Obama over either Edwards, Clinton or what have you. In a world of skeezy politicians, I'll take the one that at least most represents a break from the continuity, even if most of that is artifice. There have been some of us who have rightly been quite critical of Obama while still maintaining that he is the best (and I do mean relatively) hope. That wasn't such a popular position about six months ago, in any corner of the debate.

"In fact, you failed to prove a single point here all day."

33 letters just today, and I'd say your still chasing the ribbon on your Maypole.

If you vote for them then you approve of what they do. Then you are the enemy of the Constitution, the People, the Truth.

Glenn,

John Dean and Olberman indicated that immunity from criminal prosecution was not in the bill (perhaps can't be). They even speculated that that was Obama's play, to go after telemos for criminal activity, once he appoints an AG willing and able to prosecute. I recall seeing in the Senate version a preclusion of local, ie state action against telecoms.

So presuming this bill passes and Obama wins the presidency:

1) could this bill be struck down as unconstitutional?

2) could telecoms be prosecuted by an Obama presidency?

3) can state AGs go after telecoms?

Good post. But you forgot to mention the fact that most of the technologically advanced countries in the world pretty much spy on everyone. The U.S. isn't the evil empire spying on all of the innocent countries of the world. Our own allies spy on us more so than our enemies.

Obama was opposed to Iraq, but he didn't have a vote and it really is a moot point now. I don't agree that he is against a war with Iran either. He has stated that, if he is President, the U.S. will defend Israel's right to exist. Defend is a strong word to use and I seriously doubt he meant exclusively diplomatic measures.

your cherished Democratic party

-- bucks4mccain

It took you all day but you finally said something correct. You probably slipped up and misread your talking points. I'm sure you were supposed to say, 'democrat party'. Right?

I'm disgusted. Now who do I vote for in November?

So sad. The terrorists are winning - they are causing us to give away our precious freedom out of fear.

I fundamentally don't get it. Obama sold out to take the UNPOPULAR position on FISA! If you're going to be a coward shouldn't you get something for it?

to convey my anguish and despair today. I have not read all the letters here, although I will try to read some of them this weekend.

There needs to be an accounting. Our representatives have trashed and continue to trash our Constitution and our laws. Perhaps it is time to form a more perfect union, and to say "no more" to these dogs that supposedly represent us. We must do everything in our power to remove them from office, to prevent them from continuing to do damage to our laws, to stop them.

We revolted against King George in 1775, and now it is time to do the same to the new King George and his loyal minions. Mr. Hoyer, I can barely bring myself to utter your name. Have you no shame, no decency? A true traitor to the American people, and to the rule of law. History will not remember these bastards well.