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Thursday, June 19, 2008 12:00 AM

George Bush's latest powers, courtesy of the Democratic Congress

Congress is going to decree that the president has the power to order private citizens to break the law, as well as to spy on our telephone calls and e-mails with no warrants.

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Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:04 PM

Sweden's new law opposed by the Pirate Party

http://www.thelocal.se/12534.html

The Local
Sweden's news in English

'Yes' to surveillance law
Published: 18 Jun 08
21:33 CET

Swedish lawmakers voted late on Wednesday in favour of a controversial bill allowing all emails and phone calls to be monitored in the name of national security.

http://www.thelocal.se/12554

Pirate Party to take Sweden to EU court
Published: 19 Jun 08
17:38 CET

Sweden's Pirate Party has said it will take the country to the European Court of Human Rights in a bid to overturn a far-reaching eavesdropping law passed by the Riksdag on Wednesday evening.

Deputy leader Christian Engström told The Local that the Pirate Party believed the new law was in clear breach of the European Convention for the Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms.

[...]

"I'm confident Sweden will lose the case, but the process is likely to take a long time.

"For now the most important thing is to ensure people remain angry about this." he said.

[...]

"This is just the end of the beginning," he said.

- - www.TheLocal.se

Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:10 PM

Bite my ass, Rufus!

You couldn't be more of a troll if you lurked under bridges and molested goats.

What am I going to do about these scumbag Democrats who give the Republitards whatever they want? Let's see...

I'll withold my money and my vote from any candidate who doesn't try to stop this bill. I already told a DNC cold caller to fuck off when they asked me for money. Not one more dime from me. I'll also make it a point to support primary challengers against douche nozzles like Hoyer and Barrow and those other ball-free assholes.

Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:11 PM

@sysprog

I'll be watching that closely. (The Pirate party? Another reason to move to Sweden besides the Swedish Bikini Team).

The irony of it. Social democracies (Socilaistts!) like Sweden having better protecions than the land of the free and the home of the seems like they're brave because they're not so smart.

Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:16 PM

Spay and Neuter the Blue Dogs PAC

I guess I missed the cut off time for suggestions on this one :(

Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:18 PM

"For now the most important thing is to ensure people remain angry about this." he said.

Word.

Maybe we can organize the Strangebedfellows dudes into a Pirate Party coalition. It's obviously going to be needed regardless of who wins, fair or not, in November.

And a side note in re: anger, to comrade Jelperman -- rufus is a spoof troll. The spellnig and rEVERSE cAPS are a sort of code. In other words, you're getting pissed off at the online equivalent of a pro wrestler.

a pleasant night to all

Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:19 PM

Full-scale Capitulation

This isn't "capitulation", it's complicity (enthusiastic complicity) in the conversion of the United States from a republic to a totalitarian state.

The Democratic mindset has to be: "I want a good dictator with these powers. Screw the Constitution."

Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:53 PM

I do not accept this;

I just don't know what to say. It has been so long, I have repeated myself over and over; and I do not know what to say any more/

I have been in on this from the get=go; thanks to you, Mr. Greenwald. I appreciate the time the effort the eloquence that you put into this column. Thanks to everyone who wrote in to express their pov. For me? it might have felt good once, now it leaves a very dry taste in my mouth b/c besides preaching to the fucking choir, what have we got?

Now is the time to stfu and make stuff happen in my own little world. Apparently, I have been betrayed from all quaters. We all have, it's just those that notice and those that fucking don't.

I find little solice in contemplating what could have fucking been. And I am not gonna hold out nebulous hope for what might fucking be.

But hey. I'm probably twice as old as you, so plug your ears kids on account of it's fixing to get downright un.bare.able.

Friday, June 20, 2008 12:10 AM

ps I am not

repeat

I am not laughing, Nick-o-las.

Friday, June 20, 2008 12:21 AM

Q & A

If Barack Obama kicked an infant in the face, what would the justification be for that?

And, The Daily Show writers provide your answer: "Nobody really knows what that baby said first. That baby could be a real dick."

Are you consulting for TDS now, Glenn?

:-)

Friday, June 20, 2008 12:37 AM

Piss on the "Parliament of Whores"--er, the U. S. Congress!

The U. S. Congress--the "Parliament of Whores," as P. J. O'Rourke once aptly called it--is destroying civil liberties and handing the criminal telecoms a huge victory at the same time. And, as Greenwald notes, it's the Democrats who are handing this victory to the Liar-in-Chief. Not even the Republicans could pull this off when they were in power.

K Street controls Washington. It's filled with

ex-Congressional hacks (Trent Lott, Fred Thompson et al.), ex-government officials, corporate lobbyists, and the like. When they show up at a Congressman's office--with their checkbooks at the ready--they usually get what they want. If Joe Sixpack back in Peoria thinks he has any "influence" with his Congressional hack, he's been reading "Civics for Suckers."

If this shit doesn't convince the American sheeple to throw out the whole friggin' Congress, I don't know what will.

Friday, June 20, 2008 12:45 AM

SusanMc wins

n/t

Friday, June 20, 2008 12:45 AM

Who

Why is it always assumed that "all" the republicans will naturally fall in line with any radical right piece of legislation, while democratic representatives are expected to cave to the radical right to protect their seats in conservative districts? Neither behavior is justified by reality. Are the representatives in Congress, CYA representatives, corporate representatives, (bought lawyers,) easily persuaded representatives, or the Mob's representatives?

They couldn't possibly be U.S. congressional leaders, because they would then see their most important role is to protect the Constitution and uphold the rule of law because it makes America stronger and respects the concept of human dignity. If their cynicism informs them that dignity does not exist they are of no use to the people.

They couldn't be U.S. representatives because they have vision and understand the significance of equality under the law. They know how important maintaining our nation's ideals is to patriotism, and they wouldn't do anything that would deliberately weaken our nation by crippling patriotic fervor.

U.S. representatives wouldn't sell out Americans with the concept of a two-tiered system of injustice, laws that the people must obey and leaders who arbitrarily choose which laws to obey and which to break to escape prosecution, (obstruct justice.

When I was a teenager my friends and I joked about how oppressed and spied upon the Russian's were. "Hey, you there, halt and show me your papers," we said to each other, and laughed because such an imposition on an American's right to travel unharrassed by authorities made our nation so much better than theirs. We are not laughing anymore. We wonder who the guilty parties are who stole our power and substituted distrust and submission? It must have been an unknown or hidden enemy like trust, not being serious enough, or not paying attention.

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