After years of reading your posts, it's amazing that your formula -- a smart-ass, condescending tone combined with a complete lack of even the most rudimentary logic or reason -- hasn't changed a bit.

I'd like to believe that you're atypical; that conservatives are generally brighter or less blissfully unaware of their own amorality, inconsistency and stupidity; but I know better. Keep posting here, as long as you can, shooter: you do us all a great service through your unvaried, shameless exhibition of your side's limitless, pretentious vacuity.

I haven't read all of this yet but it seems interesting. Greenwald and the UT conservatives will probably call it unserious or even "bat-shit crazy" but at least someone is trying to actually do something...

Massachusetts School of Law Organizing Bush War Crimes Trial by markthshark

"This is not intended to be a mere discussion of violations of law that have occurred," said convener Lawrence Velvel, dean and cofounder of the school. "It is, rather, intended to be a planning conference at which plans will be laid and necessary organizational structures set up, to pursue the guilty as long as necessary and, if need be, to the ends of the Earth."

"We must try to hold Bush administration leaders accountable in courts of justice," Velvel said. "And we must insist on appropriate punishments, including, if guilt is found, the hangings visited upon top German and Japanese war-criminals in the 1940s."

"For Bush, Richard Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and John Yoo to spend years in jail or go to the gallows for their crimes would be a powerful lesson to future American leaders," Velvel said.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/17/8241/44581/828/537183

Greenwald wants us to believe that John Yoo's claim that Guantanamo's detainees were captured "fighting against the US" is false because they were not carrying weapons or engaged in actual battle at the moment they were arrested. What's objectionable here is not Yoo's dissembling, but Greenwald's laughable casuistry in his definition of "fighting against the US."

By Greenwald's definition, we would have no right to arrest enemy spies here in America during wartime, nor would we have any basis for capturing enemy soldiers who happened to be, say, traveling to an R&R facility behind their own lines -- we could only call them "enemy combatants" if we caught them firing weapons. Similarly, action against enemy propaganda mills would be improper, as the writers and purveyors of such propaganda are not "fighting against the US." The only people who are fighting against the US, according to Greenwald, are those who are actually shooting, and they're only fighting against the US at the very moment that they're shooting.

Does he really expect intelligent people to take him seriously?

Actually, this is just the sort of legal word-parsing that we can now expect American soldiers to have to face when defending their legitimate execution of American policy. In his fevered quest to find something, anything, with which to accuse those who correctly identify the insanity of the Boumediene decision, Greenwald has accurately illustrated one of the reasons why it's insane.

I lost the ability to concentrate on this piece at the second sentence, which starts out "In a Wall St. Journal Op-Ed today, John Yoo..."

Who at the Wall Street Journal thought it would be a good idea to give John Yoo space to muse about habeas corpus? Who said "great idea" when that was proposed?

What the hell is the matter with these people? Putting John Yoo on the lecture circuit like a celebrity? "He was important once, you know". "Hey, maybe we could get Dr. Mengele to write about medical ethics".

I don't expect a lot from the Wall Street Journal, but providing a willing podium for those who advocate war crimes and dictatorship at the expense of the United States Constitution -- which, as I read the papers, seems to be the pretty much universal basis for the currently popular rejection of Yoo's "body of work" -- seems a tad much even for them.

Any president would have sought to avoid classifying captured suspected terrorists as POWs. Under the Geneva conventions, the only information you can get from POWs are name, rank, and serial number, and our military needs to be able to interrogate suspected terrorists. What the Bush administration has done that is radical is to try to claim that suspected terrorists have no rights under Geneva common article 3, the ICCPR, the Convention Against Torture, etc. The tortured reasoning that they employ to get around human rights obligations is pretty absurd, and is not considered legitimate by the majority of the world outside the US. Of course, the Bush administration has nothing but contempt for the international community. More and more, the rest of the world is responding in kind.

By Greenwald's definition, we would have no right to arrest enemy spies here in America during wartime, nor would we have any basis for capturing enemy soldiers who happened to be, say, traveling to an R&R facility behind their own lines -- we could only call them "enemy combatants" if we caught them firing weapons

Is stupidity contagious amongst conservatives around here? If there's even the slightest ambiguity about the suspects' guilt, then Greenwald is correct. The battlefield is the only context in which no such ambiguity exists. Ambiguity -- not knowing -- is what civilized people on this planet call "doubt" (as in "reasonable doubt"). Just like shooter, you're lecturing us on "intelligence" while missing the most basic idea here.

Last week there was a DOJ exercise where there were helicopters swooping over the streets of Denver, flying close to the streets and so forth. No one would say why the DOJ was doing this. Rumor has it that this was practice for the DNC convention this fall. However, this had to be hush-hush top secret so that everyone's nerves could be rattled.

??? First Yoo tells us the Constitution is for wusses, then the DOJ conducts secret exercises over your city...and the DOJ is building huge detention centers throughout the country...

I now have a permanent tin foil hat