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Friday, June 13, 2008 12:00 AM

Conservatism vs. authoritarianism: The British vs. the U.S. right

While British conservatives oppose mild increases in government detention and surveillance powers, American "conservatives" support endless expansion of those powers.

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Friday, June 13, 2008 02:40 PM

@Chris Sinnard

Chris, I am sure if you addressed your complaints to Salon editors, they would find LWM and give him the back of their hand.

There's no point complaining to us. I'm sure you remember that LWM was elected (by acclimatisation) "blog arbiter".

I am afraid he will have to be recalled or impeached, possibly for moral turpentine.

Friday, June 13, 2008 02:45 PM

@CO

Did you catch Richard Engel on Stewart (TDS) last nite - or the nite before?

TP has a post...

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/13/engel-there-have-been-five-wars-in-iraq-and-the-us-record-in-them-is-just-1-4/

The Surge has had some positive effects - reducing some violence - but even the alliance with the Sunnis we've managed to achieve that will have unintended consequences and complications down the road. And it isn't "winning" anything because we have no clear objectives and any "objectives" this admin would hope for are just unrealistic and probably not possible to achieve. Engel said it was quite possible that the whole region needs to be redrawn, like 1919, and that may just happen. We will slowly and safely extract ourselves from Iraq under a Democratic admin.

And...

Cheney Acknowledges He Lied About China Drilling ‘60 Miles Off The Coast Of Florida’

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/13/cheney-admits-oil-lie/

And he keeps on ticking like a Timex, or a Bulova

Now I'm off to celebrate. No. Not Timmeh's demise...

Friday, June 13, 2008 02:47 PM

democrats

when the legislation comes up to remove habeus corpus in response to yesterday's ruling and the democratic leadership rolls over and plays dead and then it TAKES THE PEOPLE RISING UP and calling and writing their representatives in order to stop the removal of habeus corpus... you, Glenn, will still support the democrats. that is what is most sad. you report time and again on the failures of this democratic (quote unquote) house and senate. you report on how they fold only to pressure from the people. yet, you won't come out against them. too bad. so sad.

Friday, June 13, 2008 02:47 PM

Chris, would you please substantiate this, if you can?

Multiple handles on message boards, including sockpuppets, on the same thread.

Chris Sinnard

That is a serious charge, and would lower my opinion of LWM and Ron Pauliac very much. Could you tell us how you came to this conclusion, and what your proof is?

Friday, June 13, 2008 02:50 PM

Friday the 13th is hell on spells

My exorcism rituals don't seem to be working, and neither did a chilled tumbler of moral turpentine. Maybe we'll need that nekkid dance after all.

Friday, June 13, 2008 02:54 PM

@Derbig Mooser

That is nice how you are playing apologist for its disruptive behavior by saying how I could complain to the editors, but what you are saying is meaningless garbage. Who said anything about or cares about Joan Walsh?

Here is a better idea. Instead of "complaining to the editors", why not just respect the wishes of the blog owner when he requests that one refrains from behaving in certain ways? Do you think that LWM is outside the realm of respecting GG and his blog because he has 10k posts? Why?

I'm not complaining to you, as I don't care at all about what you think. It isn't like you ever post anything interesting in here anyway, but I asked it a simple question. A simple question that it failed to answer, and will continue to fail to answer. Why won't it honor GG's requests to stop fanning the same flames? Why does it have to continue to exhibit the same behavior even when asked multiple times to stop by the blog owner? Do the requests not apply to LWM? Does LWM not care?

None of you clever little jock sniffing snarksters on here will answer the question, you will all just make a bunch of fucking retarded jokes about it and continue to not do what has been requested multiple times for what has seemed like months, and then say it is someone else's fault, mine.

I am pointing out that is obviously ridiculous for GG to ask people to refrain from getting into the "Ron Paul flame war" and then expecting it to just happen when the person with the highest post count on Salon is the one who does it the most and therefore obviously cares the least about what Glenn requests.

Friday, June 13, 2008 02:54 PM

@Ron Pauliac

Ron, as LWM's sock puppet, let me assure you that even though I might stab you in the back, I will never step on your toes.

Ask yourself: what would you do if the shoe was on the other sock? I want an answer which puts your best foot forward but isn't too arch.

Friday, June 13, 2008 02:56 PM

When Russerts Attack

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nCwv57H_2g

Friday, June 13, 2008 03:02 PM

@Chris

I'm not complaining to you, as I don't care at all about what you think. It isn't like you ever post anything interesting in here anyway,

Sure Chris, sure. It just so happens the cards, letters, phone calls (please folks, no collect calls), flowers and gifts tell me something completely different. Audience response has been fantastic!!

And folks, I want you to know my staff reads every single one! Okay, we see if there's a check or money order in the envelope, than it's off to the recycle bin, but still, keep 'em coming.

And keep in mind, everyone; NBC is gonna need to replace Russert pretty soon, if you get my drift. So let them know whose sock can fill the shoes.

Friday, June 13, 2008 03:04 PM

@ Ron Pauliac

No, didn't see it. But that story is just a carbon copy of so many others, I can imagine. They just keep popping up, like whack-a-moles.

Friday, June 13, 2008 03:05 PM

@reality kid

Just wanted to second your seconding (third it?). The real horror in the last 7 years has been the innocent lives shattered by our military blunders. People talk about out troops being killed (and I empathize with that and find it a horror: I spent 18 years in the military): but the real tragedy is the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis (how terrible to type that figure) at a minimum who have died for no good reason, not to mention the vast numbers of displaced, etc. etc.; and then there are those who my government has tortured (can't believe I am typing those words still: seems like a dream). I view our casualties among our troops as the collateral damage, so to speak: the heart of the damage is the horror done to the Iraqi, and yes, Afghani, innocents. That is the emergency. That is the horror. That is why it is important to elect someone with some modicum of reason.

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