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Friday, June 13, 2008 12:00 AM

Conservatism vs. authoritarianism: The British vs. the U.S. right

While British conservatives oppose mild increases in government detention and surveillance powers, American "conservatives" support endless expansion of those powers.

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Friday, June 13, 2008 11:51 AM

Sulzer...

Its not a justification; it is simply a fact of history. Conflicts are inevitable, conflicts often lead to cultural assimilation, assimilation prevents stagnation and promotes diversity. Historically, few conflicts have been completely genocidal (unless you're reading the old testament), cultures and genes have fused or infected each other, no matter who the aggressor was, and the product is neither the aggressor nor the vanquished, but something completely new.

Now, in this current age, I would say that we are all in a great position to cease conflict and quit while we are ahead, and benefit from cultural fusions as they are occuring naturally and amicably, in our technologically and geographically globalized worlds.

As an Arab and Colombian, however, I have often been forced to ponder the vibrancy of Latin American Spanish, music and dance, the slow bleed of cultural and political ideas from Israel into Palestine, and the adoption of Arab cultural traits into Israeli society. The cultures I enjoy are alive and beautiful, and all the product of intense violence and awful events. But I wouldn't have my cultures any other way.

Friday, June 13, 2008 11:51 AM

YHTBFKM

From a purely historical perspective, I think, all violent culture clashes lead to healthy societies in the longer term. Both cultures are invigorated, and juxtaposed, becoming one, eventually. Everything we find beautiful about colonized cultures--and even European cultures from the days of Rome--is to some extent, a product of violence and oppression.

-- omooex

So might does indeed make right.... eventually. And, hold up a tic, not only that but it actually, ultimately makes everything beautiful! Wow what a relief. Bush is correct then. He will most definitely be "vindicated" by history.

Friday, June 13, 2008 11:53 AM

pi? A square piece of fruit pie sounds okay to me. out/over.

I wish to be drinking a bier? Somedays a Keith's Red Ale seems less confuscious. I say I do agree

I wished I used the word Oikonomia.

The Public life gig-dance is a-okay?

Jebbie?

It's a good notion to improve things.

A fantasy that isn't embodied in community results in the breakdown of a truly human existence. I believe. It's mighty dangerous to make a livlihood and just remain in the cerebral head. I believe any one can spend money. Many can't FIX a dang darn thing.

It sure is pretty easy to be getting confused?

Most of the time. Do good work and enjoy quiet.

The puveyors and lie propagandist are miserable.

Stay lucky? No be too mystical or superstitious.

Everything is at hand and right before our eyes.

This sure is a interesting UT learning experience.

Friday, June 13, 2008 11:53 AM

Adnoto

You're smarter than this.

Friday, June 13, 2008 11:55 AM

I am sad too.

bucky1. Rest.

You are at peace.

Rest in peace.

Friday, June 13, 2008 11:57 AM

@ Scarily Prescient

Re: Revolt in 2100

I re-read it a few years ago and was surprised that the resistance against the theocratic dictatorship was a Masonic revolution. This went completely over my head when I first read it as a kid.

Friday, June 13, 2008 11:59 AM

Response to Ron Pauliac

The order to intern was an executive order. The order did not, however, criminalize refusal to abide by the internment order. That action was taken by Congress in 1942, and Taft voted against it.

Friday, June 13, 2008 12:02 PM

-- ethics_professor

Thanks for the thorough answer as well as the link and book recommendation. Fascinating stuff.

Friday, June 13, 2008 12:04 PM

@omooex

From a purely historical perspective, I think, all violent culture clashes lead to healthy societies in the longer term. Both cultures are invigorated, and juxtaposed, becoming one, eventually. Everything we find beautiful about colonized cultures--and even European cultures from the days of Rome--is to some extent, a product of violence and oppression.

-- omooex

The usual suspects being absent, omooex is trying to fill in. Omooex probably thinks so, being on the "winning" side of historical equation (or so he thinks). The knowledge of what has been lost in the clashes and "becoming one eventually" he has never had, or forgotten. And there is precious little to "find beautiful about colonized cultures" - except perhaps if the colonizer was your ancestor, perhaps, and you are morally blind.

Friday, June 13, 2008 12:10 PM

Here we go again.... LWM disrespects GG's wishes and shows his contempt for GG and GG's blog (which is NOT LWM's blog)... again...

It looks like someone couldn't help themselves... again...

"Ron Pauls, Bruce Feins and Bob Barrs"

Just shut up now, take your medicine, and keep your OCD under control. You mean the same Ron Paul that spoke at the same conference as GG this month, right? I merely read Ron Paul's writings and agree with the man, and according to you I am some kind of neoconfederate religious fundamentalist. GG speaks at the same conference, through guilt by association that must make GG many magnitudes worse than me on the neoconfederate "goment hating nutbar" scale or w/e cutesy word you use downplay our Imperial Reality? (your silly misspelled words are so fresh, clever, and funny btw). GG associated with Ron Paul, so when are you going to fire up your association smear machine and start claiming that GG is best friends with Gary North and a follower of a friend of his mom's uncle's second cousin (i.e. some random bigot) that he has never heard of?

Why must you continue to disrespect Glenn wishes over and over again, bringing up Ron Paul and trashing him in the way that you do? Why do you have so much contempt for Glenn and his blog? Haven't you figured out that no matter how many thousands of times you spam this blog with comments that the blog isn't yours, and that the owner has asked you multiple times to not behave in the way that you do? And that you keep doing it over and over and over again when you've been repeatedly asked not to do so?

Why? Why do you behave the way you do? Seriously, what the hell is your problem? Do you think this is "LWM and GG's Blog" and that GG's requests (i.e. "rules") don't apply to you? Maybe it is the authoritarian in you (that you just happen to find in everyone else) that believes you are not accountable for any of the things you say, that the rules do not apply to you, and that you cannot be restrained or stopped by the requests of others? Your inability to control your behavior shows me that you've got some kind of mental issue(s) and/or behavioral disorder going for you and that you're more of a "nutbar" than anyone you try and apply that label to.

This skepticism of Government power -- which lies not only at the heart of most key British reforms over the last 8 centuries but also at the heart of the American Founding -- is precisely what has been missing almost completely from the American Right, for which there is now no federal government power too great or too unlimited to embrace.

I'm sure Obama's soldiers will disagree, since he can fix everything, just wait until Obama sits on the throne.

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