Ok, well since you (and anyone else for that matter) have time to "while away" perhaps you would consider following some links, signing some petitions, making some calls, etc. if you haven't already of course.

Hopefully that good old "letter writing campaign" spirit of the UT activists hasn't gone the way of the Dodo. Glenn may not deem it as important as ensuring that everyone know that McCain is a liar or as worthy as an ad campaign targeting one corrupt Democratic congressidiot, but that doesn't mean the UT activists can't get their action on, right?

http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=93581

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/11/163046/692/769/534167

http://www.wexlerwantshearings.com/

Time is running out so we must work together to spread the message and apply pressure.

First, please encourage your friends and family members to sign up at WexlerWantsHearings.com – as it will allow us to keep in touch with you and speak to a wider audience. If you haven't yet put in your phone and address, please sign up again, as we will be doing telephone town halls in the near future.

Second, call your representative and urge them to support Impeachment hearings.

Finally, contact newspapers, news stations, and your favorite bloggers and urge them to report on this movement. We need to keep Impeachment a significant news story until the Democratic leadership sees the value in it.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/6/10/165049/461/377/53355

It just ends up coming off as mainstream wingnuttery.

Sad innit?

-- adnoto

I got it. And so did most everyone else on here. The fact that you don't know that..."Sad, innit?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1if9kLJpWw

Yeah, Iran is a real threat to Afghanistan. The first thing Iran wants to do is give Bush an excuse to attack Iran by threatening one of their Islamic neighbors. As others have pointed out before, Iran hasn't invaded any countries in a very long, long time.

This is why you don't ever want a chair force clown in the White House. Dumb as a box of rocks.

Define troll, because I've been around here a long time. Maybe just for convenience's sake, you define it as someone you don't like. That way you don't actually have to use your head.

Go 'round the outside!

And contradict one another... What fun!

What about the word of George Bush's hand-picked emissary to Afghanistan:

“None was more [helpful] than the Iranians,” said James Dobbins, the U.S. special envoy to Afghanistan at the time

Does that also count for nothing?

There's something to be said about the desire to believe that is so strong that you ignore even what your allies say if it contradicts your dogma.

I'm really not sure what, though.

... the speech of a leader who must make the right noises to appease a militarily stronger and aggressive neighbor don't count for a lot.

The gullibility here is astounding.

Give up. These stupid Salon types have drunk the Kool Aid, and there's no convincing them otherwise.

They've fallen for the oldest trick in the book. Like many peoples in that part of the world, Iran subscribes to the adage that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Iran was happy to see the Taliban go (as someone pointed out, they were largely a product of the Pakistani ISI), and so anyone who could help them do that would get token assistance.

But that hasn't stopped them from killing American and British soldiers in Iran and providing shaped charges that will penetrate the hulls of our armored vehicles or yanking the chain of their Iraqi puppet, al Sadr.

But the silly liberals here are so eager to suck the dick of anyone who is not Bush, and they'll ignore 30 years of history to do so, going so far as to actually think Iran wishes us well.

It would be laughable if it weren't so scary.

Satire is dead

Just resting!

I think of it like skeet shooting: there's nothing, really, to be gained, but you can practice your skills and while away some time...

Adnoto... You're right, of course, but when they're so transcendently idiotic, it's admittedly a bit difficult to resist piling on the brain-dead troll du jour. And a measure of success can always be derived from the crickets that become deafening when they're clobbered. Yes, it's cheap thrills, a necessity in the second Bush economy, but of course they don't deserve the attention they've been craving since they were toddlers, and I'm deeply ambivalent about providing them.

The squirming and selective ripostes, however, are as entertaining as they are instructive, and fun for everyone to see.

I am a "black folk" as you insist on calling us.

And I am Spartacus.

I think UT is experiencing some of those wingnut trolls that McCain has employed via his campaign site. Remember? He threw up the Batshit Insane Signal a few weeks ago? Well I think we are seeing some of the Batshit insane that answered the call.

I will never understand why you all choose to engage them. I mean, other than to call them the derogatory names that they so rightly deserve -- in that case I am all for it.

I'll just figure this is more of your usual make-it-up-as-you-go bullshit, especially since Iran has been working to thwart us on every front. Why would they cooperate with us on Afghanistan?

Umm, 'cause they hate the Taliban, a creation of ISI (of their regional rival,Pakistan), worse than we do? (You know, it's what they call overlapping interests...the principle that underlies agreements between any two countries?)

Whatever the reason, as our invasion of Afghanistan commenced, Iran announced that American military pilots in distress were welcome to use their airfields for emergency landings. Surprisingly helpful of them, I thought at the time.

Of course, Dubya the Idiot King declared Iran a charter member of the Axis of Eeeevil a couple of months later, thereby putting an end to that thawing of relations.

(Oh, and I agree with the others: better trolls, please.)