You seem to be an expert on trolls.

What is 'practical' is for the Congress is to represent the will of the people. A majority of the people want Cheney impeached. The last accurate poll suggested 45 % want Bush impeached vs 46% who did not.

You count your chickens before they are hatched. It is as though you would decide whether or not to attempt a prosecution of a murderer only if you thought the judge would convict.

If the MSM is forced to cover impeachment hearings, constituents will force their representatives to vote for it. The crimes of Bush and his entourage are so extensive that the Congress and Senate could not retain their dignity let alone their jobs if they did not vote to impeach.

Yours is a defeatist attitude my friend. Nothing in the world is accomplished except by doing. Impeachment, Just Do It!!

Of course they are not. I said it many times, I will say it again.

Does it need to get any plainer that both parties are dangling marionettes as the behest of the evil trillionaires running this planet into hell?

Go support your Obama marionette in November, I am sure he will be DIFFERENT.

Just getting back online...Wanted to respond to you.

I see there has been some discussion on impeachment already. Let me start by saying I agree with you in almost every respect, when you wrote:

Why are you looking for "other ways" when we have the means, the procedures and the evidence to do it ourselves? What good are we if we incapable of getting our own house in order? How will we ever deal with these types of issues in the future if we cannot put our house in order now? We are in this position, in large part, because we have avoided doing the correct thing in the past. How many times are we going to let these people get away with this shit before we do something about it? Never? We are incapable? We now need the international criminal court to do the right thing for us? As a nation, are we really that devoid of principles and morals?

I would submit that unless we do it ourselves it will not mean much in the long run.

While we seem to have "the means, the procedures and the evidence to do it ourselves", we (and by we I mean congress) seems to lack the political will to do it. And if it is not done, and done with ferocity, and succeeding thoroughly, it will only end up vindicating Bush.

Maybe our leaders have become devoid of principals and morals. Maybe we do need an outside body to show us how it's done. It is my lack of faith in the current crop of leaders that leads me to suggest what I did. The way I see it, we already had the chance to get our house in order, and we blew it.

Maybe, by joining, and showing faith in, a neutral international system of justice, instead of once again "Going it alone", we can actually raise our stature abroad. Maybe that's a stretch, but I think our future as human beings depends on us moving toward a more international cooperation, in this way and others.

Plus, I would really, really like to see pictures of Bush in chains.

Glenn, in case you missed it, as reported by the Hill (http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/fisa-measure-tests-relationship-between-rockefeller-and-bond-2008-06-09.html):

FISA measure tests relationship between Rockefeller and Bond

Tension is growing between the two senators who shepherded a controversial rewrite of surveillance laws through the Senate, with each dismissing the other’s role in closed-door negotiations to finalize a deal with the House and the Bush administration.

…“The DNI has not talked to Chairman Rockefeller. I have worked with the intelligence community, the Republican leaders in the House to make the offer that we made to Mr. Hoyer,” Bond said.

Rockefeller responds: “I have been working with the DNI and with Steny Hoyer, and [Bond] is the one that has not been involved.”

…Democrats privately say that they have been agitated by Bond’s aggressive style and partisan attacks and that the Republican has tried to insert himself into the process as they delicately attempt a compromise with the administration.

But Republicans say Rockefeller has created problems by backing away from assurances to keep the Senate bill intact and that his role is now grossly overstated…

…After The Hill reported Rockefeller’s comments last week, the White House and DNI came to Bond’s defense and issued statements saying that the administration was not holding separate talks with Democrats. Bond has been the point person in trying to break the stalemate, they stated, and they reaffirmed their support of the recent GOP plan.

Shana Marchio, a Bond spokeswoman, said the administration’s statements “speak for themselves.”

Marchio said last week that Bond was unaware of Rockefeller’s “direct involvement” in the FISA discussions between the House and Senate.

When asked about those statements, Rockefeller had this to say: “What I think about that is that they don’t know what they’re talking about.”

Hmmm…did someone finally come up with the right strategy to stop the Repugs? Pissing on their shoes and telling ‘em, “It’s raining” works for me. *g*

Bush doesn't leave office for over 7 months. That is plenty of time to make it happen IF congress finds the will. During Watergate it took less time to all but impeach Nixon from start to finish of the formal impeachment process--February-August '74. So arguments about there being no time to do this fall flat. As do ones about how congress has more important things to do, which are beyond ludicrous since anyone with half a brain knows that congress has a near 0% chance of passing anything good that Bush would sign. Just look at this week's energy bills. Rather, congress is far more likely to pass yet more horrible bills, such as this one, and anything that could prevent it from doing that would be a welcome "distraction".

But thanks for telling us what we can do with our "dicks", literally and metaphorically (for those not properly equipped, or otherwise not so inclined).