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Saturday, May 24, 2008 12:00 AM

How telecoms are attempting to buy amnesty from Congress

Lobbyist disclosure forms and campaign contribution records illuminate the sleazy process by which our key laws are written.

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Saturday, May 24, 2008 12:55 PM

Next up? Steny Hoyer!

"Another campaign against a different, politically vulnerable enabler of telecom amnesty and warrantless eavesdropping will begin soon after this one."

We need to go after the big guys who are pushing amnesty, not just those who are "politically vulnerable." Steny Hoyer needs to feel the heat. Lets show the House leadership we mean business. Run the ads againt Hoyer!

Saturday, May 24, 2008 12:40 PM

Retired Military Patriot

But if the money against Carney would have been used against McShameful McSame, the impact could’ve been much larger. Showing how Black is directly implicated with a current bill and how McSame had to back down from even his pretend solution, would be very effective. Just one major one-page ad in the NYT or WaPo or WSJ would soon start a round by round slugfest between McSame and Obama. That would then force the M$M to have to go more deeply into FISA and all the Busheviks lies. It could become a continuing campaign subject because it is a microcosm of the entire mess that Glenn has been exposing and Obama wants to fix. Why not make McSame the next target?

$80,000 dropped into a single Congressional district makes a huge splash. The same amount dropped into a national presidential race is akin to throwing a tiny pebble into the ocean.

Saturday, May 24, 2008 12:27 PM

@ adnoto

Well, you're not dumb. Evil, maybe, but not dumb. ;-)

Well argued, even though I don't agree, at least not with your interpretation of the implications.

Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:53 AM

Targeting McShame vice Carney would’ve created a carnival

It’s too late to speak up and ask for a different target. What you did today in showing the trail of corruption from former congressman and their staffers to lobbyists to former colleagues is outstanding. When the public can see the specific trail for a specific corrupted bill, the danger of lobbyists becomes more clear and threatening.

But if the money against Carney would have been used against McShameful McSame, the impact could’ve been much larger. Showing how Black is directly implicated with a current bill and how McSame had to back down from even his pretend solution, would be very effective. Just one major one-page ad in the NYT or WaPo or WSJ would soon start a round by round slugfest between McSame and Obama. That would then force the M$M to have to go more deeply into FISA and all the Busheviks lies. It could become a continuing campaign subject because it is a microcosm of the entire mess that Glenn has been exposing and Obama wants to fix. Why not make McSame the next target?

Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:31 AM

Lobbying hobby

@LWM

Good lobbying, on the other hand, requires no such larger contextual explanation. It is a cherished First Amendment right -- necessary, like the others, to protect a free people against overbearing and potentially tyrannical government...

Oh, C'mon, LWM, if you ever spent any time in Santa Clara you would know that corporations are people, too!

-- Derbig Mooser

I think you misunderstood him Derbig. He implicitly agrees with with the stance that lobbying = freedom. He must, no? That is the route, at least in part, he has chosen himself. My understanding is that he and a "well connected" friend are fighting "the good fight" via lobbying. The the Republican Governer of California has their number on speed dial don'cha know.

Come to think of it, most all of you who write and beg your congresswhores to see things your way are engaging in just such a system, albeit on a much smaller scale and with less money involved. Am I missing something or wouldn't this whole Carney thing be considered some form of lobbying? Let's see... a PAC was formed -> money was solicited and used for the cause (did they take him to dinner?) -> those involved cajoled and negotiated with their target congresswhore...

I dunno, it sure sounds like lobbying to me.

I think LWM was probably using that op-ed to remind us of the virtues of lobbying. After all, what other options are there but to play the game?

Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:22 AM

Dear William.

'... yes only love can break your heart, try to be sure right from the start.' (*neil young's crazy horse.)

love,

bah.

Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:09 AM

forget Timberman

Can you teach me how to do that, bah? If so, I'd be forever in your debt. GC! keeps trying, but I've always been slow....

Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:55 AM

forget Timberman.

...you're my favorite bug bop.

~ i'm off to ol home place.

tootle loo,

bah.

Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:50 AM

bahhummingBug. check carefully the trucker restroom seats.

You are the official Memorial Day Bug squatter. I Hope You are Obsessive Compulsive Disordered.

Check public barns for bugs on the hay bail seats. No spiders, and no squeaking shrill shouts.

Sit down. First check all seats for bugs~bah. bah is OCD. No sit on any bugs. Please check the

seats with care.

Sit on bah~bugs?

Protect from germs.

No Forget to Sneeze?

Wash after shaking bah's wings.

Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:45 AM

If corporations have the legal status of "individuals"

then why are they allowed to contribute so much more money to a campaign than the rest of us "individuals"?

Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:38 AM

here's a suggestion ...

how about we make a rule .. the rule should read .. "any and all funds spent by active for-profit corporations on lobbying to influence legislation before he u.s. house or the u.s. senate .. or any member thereof ..will be matched by an exactly equal amount paid in a check to the treasury of the united states of america.

if we can't atop it .. at least we can assure the treasury benefits from it. essentially ..as it now stands our government gets influenced and a favorable result is acheived with all the financial benefit accruing to private parties. let's get the taxpayers a cut of those funds as well .. if our system is going to be corrupted .. then let's let the trreasury make a profit on the deal as well.

much of this nnsense could be stopped if we could legislate away the totally assinine idea that "corporations .. for the purposes of speech have the same rights as individuals" .. which is amng the stupidest ideas ever to cross the bench .. imo ..

so let's at least get matching funds eh ??

Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:34 AM

The other post seems like a potty training workshop.... (a long painful road trip. no restroom).... shut the ears. Turn off the cell-phones.

A toddler in a sheer sleeveless shirt is talking cod. Holy Tuna.

It's to imagine a toddler hopping up/ down at a trucker rest~stop.

Screaming the same-same.... blood curdle... `'Pop, flush the toilet!

okay. Who don't need the ears and mouth cleansed from observations.

All I know is that a little time spent viewing natural won't hurt anyone.

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