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Saturday, May 24, 2008 12:00 AM

How telecoms are attempting to buy amnesty from Congress

Lobbyist disclosure forms and campaign contribution records illuminate the sleazy process by which our key laws are written.

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Sunday, May 25, 2008 03:58 AM

Wacko! heh.

You can't escape self. The frame will slowly decay. The vain are full of vulgarity.

halico, balco, bucko, bozo, frowno, a hay and a ho, heehaw, hey nomino.

There was a false scribe named bucky!.

He was very much troubled with fits.

When the Moon began to wane,

Snobbery YKW swoons.

YKW tumbles into bits.

bucky1 drinks a fizz.

LWM kisses bucky1!

Sunday, May 25, 2008 04:14 AM

Frustration

The corrupt, spineless democratic congressional "leadership" is poised to shit on our constitution once again and give the lawbreakers in the white house and AT&T/Sprint/Verizon's boardrooms an escape from accountability. Makes me want to vomit. A couple little things I do to help me feel a little better: call Hoyer & Pelosi's office & vent my frustration and rage in their direction for betraying the citizens of this land. Also, despite my ever-dire financial straits, I find contributing to the actblue ad campaign (targeting Chris Carney) immensely satisfying. How about targeting HOYER as well?

http://www.actblue.com/page/fisa

Sunday, May 25, 2008 04:14 AM

bad celery!

"There was a false scribe named bucky!." -- celery

Well, prove it Art James.

You always defend your little buddies, no matter what they do or say. You always attack (sometimes in most foul manner) the those who point out their error. You appear to be a sycophant, but appearances can be deceiving; so add some facts of your own once.

But Art, you never seek to prove anything. You still can, right? You are not mentally incapable are you? So try. Give an example of "false scribe" if you can.

Sunday, May 25, 2008 04:18 AM

L.W.M., you've lost your grip on history

There is no "fear of third parties".

If there were, Lincoln (The Republicans were a third party) and Teddy Roosevelt (Bull Moose Progressives), to name the most recent, would never have been elected. You are no political scientist and neither am I but the problem is institutional and structural.
— L.W.M.

Teddy Roosevelt was never elected as a Progressive (Bull Moose) Party candidate. Roosevelt succeeded to the presidency on the assassination of McKinley in 1901. He won the election of 1904 as a Republican. In 1908 the Republican nomination and the election went to William Howard Taft. Roosevelt's split with Taft did not come until 1910. Roosevelt walked out of the Republican Party when he did not get the nomination at the Republican convention that year and ran on the Progressive Party ticket. While he outpolled Taft in the election, the overall result of the Republican Party split was to hand the 1912 election to Wilson.

Please try to be more careful with your facts.

Sunday, May 25, 2008 04:19 AM

Eudora Welty wrote....

The events in our lives happen in a sequence in time, but in their significance to ourselves they find their own order: the continuous thread of revelation.

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(sit under a calabash tree) what do I know? I am looking to find a renowned foot surgeon? Yep.

There must be a Memorial Day Ugly Left Calf and Toe Contest out there in a world like this? Oy!

Sunday, May 25, 2008 05:43 AM

Good point, F,MD

"To destroy this invisible Government, to dissolve the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day." - 1912 Progressive Party Platform, attributed to Theodore Roosevelt[1] and quoted again in his autobiography[2] where he connects Trusts and monopolies (sugar interests, Standard Oil, etc.) to Woodrow Wilson and Howard Taft, and consequently both major political parties.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_(United_States,_1912)

Where have I heard that rhetoric before?

My mistake. It went to Wilson, that corrupt interventionist warmonger.

Yeah, those third parties are really what's needed. That'll fix everything.

Anyway, the basic point remains. We don't have third and fourth parties, like many countries with proportional representation, for that reason, we don't have proportional representation. We have a "winner take all" plurality system. The intent was to have no parties. Ron Paul didn't succeed because noutside of his cult following, no one was too impressed. Same with Kucinich, Gravel, etc. To argue that the media ignored them is ludicrous. The media doesn't ignore fringe candidates as much as it focuses on trivial bullshit. Barr's run may help the Dems this cycle, as a spoiler for the Republicans. Just as a third party candidate with no chance of winning the general could hurt the Dems in another situation. To suggest there are only barriers to third parties is ludicrous. The Republicans bent over backwards in the past to fund Greens and make sure they got on the ballot in some cases because they knew it would screw up the Dems.

Sunday, May 25, 2008 05:58 AM

What I find most annoying...

Is the naive vision of the political world that some people seem fixated on. It will always be a sordid business because that's just the nature of power and government. It involves people and that's the way human nature is. It ain't no Frank Capra movie. We aren't striving for perfection here. Just competence in getting the job done as fairly and ethically as possible.

It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.

Mark Twain

Your other options are adnoto, who has no plan other than to keep shooting people who aren't pure enough until no one is left or the anarchomystic who has it all figured out in his head. Chaos.

Sunday, May 25, 2008 06:05 AM

There have been 81 total third parties in American History

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_party_%28United_States%29

You are lucky you have two.

Some people just have one. Some people prefer it that way.

Sunday, May 25, 2008 06:07 AM

L.W.M.

wrote:Um, Renzo...

Jimmy can add, subtract and multiply, but dislikes division.

Subtraction is division. The results of division can be obtained by repeated subtraction.

-- L.W.M

Yes, but it all can be done with two input NAND gates. So what? Higher level logical processes are necessary to streamline mental activity.

Sunday, May 25, 2008 06:08 AM

If virtue fails, there's always politics

Power is all it takes to make authoritarians of us all. -- L.W.M.

That's the human tendency, yes. An individual can resist the impulse, but it's much more difficult when the stakes are high. Who hasn't, when rushing to meet a deadline, shown a callous impatience with people who aren't moving fast enough. Who hasn't, when faced with the prospect of losing a war, shot deserters, or bombed the enemy's children, all in pursuit of the greater good, of course.

That's why it's always been a good idea to put structural impediments in the way of the authoritarian impulse. Labor unions are set against capitalists who believe that labor is a commodity to be obtained at the lowest price, and bosses who want their employees to mine coal without proper shoring of tunnels, or proper ventilation for toxic gasses. A Constitution puts Congress between the resources of the state and the military powers of a President who believes that war is the solution to every problem, foreign and domestic.

Sometimes these structural impediments fail, but that doesn't make them a bad idea.

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