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  • Speaking of Jacksonian values....

    WT... I disagree with those here, bucky principally, who say that corrupt, oppressive government is inevitable...

    "There are no necessary evils in government. Its evils exist only in its abuses."

    - Andrew Jackson

    It is probably more accurate to say that Glenn defended the first amendment. He just happened to take Matt Hale's civil case to do it, and specifically on the first amendemnt issue. He didn't represent him in the criminal matters. (And I never read the Wiki, I'm just making an educated guess.)

    Rowan,

    If their is a Hebrew analogue to the Taliban, Rabbi Rosenblum's Haredi Judaism is as close to it as you can get.

    I did read about that in Wiki.

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  • @ quickstrategy

    Now you've done it.

    ;-)

  • @ william timberman

    you say that the paradox is purely semantic, which seems to me to imply that you would be happy describing AIPAC & Co. as "Jewish Nazis." Is that correct? If not, why not? Please don't say, "it's tactical suicide to describe them like that, so I shan't," and expect me to let you leave it at that!

  • @bugs

    And, I just love how Southerners try to claim the mantle of being "real" patriots, considering their forebears' rebellion in the early 1860s. Well, to them, I say: go read www.fuckthesouth.com and then get over it -- you're gonna have Obama at "your" aptly named "White House."

    This is just what I was talking about.

    Some right-wing shill publishes a piece in WaPo and suddenly out comes all the foam-flecked invective and 'fuck the south'.

    Who do you think this helps, exactly?

  • With one exception --

    And there's the rub. While they continually succeed as portraying Democratic candidates as elitists, all our guys and dolls (Clinton, Edwards, Gore, Obama) came up from nothing and all theirs were born with silver chalices up their asses.

    -- Northwestwoods Saturday, May 17, 2008 09:43 PM

    Bushit was born with a silver coke spoon up his nose.

  • @Chris Sinnard

    Divide and Conquer. They love it. As long as it isn't about the divide and conquer going on in Iraq.

    More than love it, they count on it. Political market segmentation, with one segment handing the other to them with minimal investment.

  • @Rowan

    How about Jewish fascism?

    Have you ever read the translation of Strauss letter Scott Horton did at Balkanization?

    An article in Harper's with link to his original essay.

    http://www.harpers.org/archive/2008/01/hbc-90002212

  • @karenn22

    The economy is too awful and people know it's because of the war and the failed leadership of the GOP.

    I agree. That's why the reich-wing noise machine is trying so hard to talk about anything *but* policies and results. The Kathleen Parker piece we are discussing here is just one example.

    It is amusing that Republican leaders are now discussing the need to devise a new message and remake their brand. They seem pathologically incapable of realizing that it's the product that stinks, not the package.

  • @ Rowan Berkeley

    Your own focus has misdirected you, I fear. What made Nazis out of many Germans is very similar to what made Likudnik hard-liners out of many Israelis -- the fear that their own identity was ephemeral in the eyes of the rest of the world, and that they were targeted for destruction by powerful forces.

    Whether or not we highlight the resemblance is purely a tactical matter. There is no paradox here other than the one which turns righteousness into evil in the blink of an eye. An anti-Nazi turned into a Nazi (italics denote the use of metaphor) is no more remarkable -- or paradoxical -- than a follower of the author of the Sermon on the Mount burning heretics at the stake.

  • The Half White Theory

    Senator Obama should be able to get over 50% of the West Virginia vote come the November general election simply by convincing the electorate there that he's half white. To West Virginians, he doesn't have to talk about mine safety, workers' rights, ending a crazy ass war, energy reform, health care for all, cleaning-up the environment, nope; all he has to do is to convince those West Virginia voters that, even though you they may not see it, he's half white.

  • Horseshit

    The economy is too awful and people know it's because of the war and the failed leadership of the GOP.

    karenn22

    The effect of the war (funded by going into debt) on the economy are long term and haven't even begun to be felt yet yet. In fact, the short term effects have been beneficial, like speed, a quick boost you pay for later. The economy sucks because right wing economic policies suck. Certain idiots who frequent this blog (and who shall remain unamed) who are definitely antiwar and also right wing would like nothing more that to propagate this myth. In fact, over at Atrios this morning, aimai pointed to a post at Sadly, No!

    http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9448.html

    There is no doubt this war will hurt America but the economy is suffering from the harms of other right wing policies.

    Bill Clinton left us with budget surpluses but he was involved in military actions as well. Democrats just do them better and cheaper. No combat deaths in the Balkans.

  • Er, not so much

    The economy is too awful and people know it's because of the war and the failed leadership of the GOP. -Karenn22

    I'll give you failed leadership, Karen. Except it wasn't fully the failure of the GOP, except to the extent you'd argue that the GOP has a lock on all financial regulatory mechanisms. Our current recessionary outlook has a number of sources. The most recognizable is what Atrios has termed the BigShitpileâ„¢.

    The war in Iraq is accruing an enormous debt to be paid in the future. That debt may make it more difficult to crawl out of this recession, but the degree to which it may make it more difficult has yet to be determined.

    Linking our current economic downturn with the expenditures in Iraq may serve the Democrats well in the coming election. It could be good politics, but it's poor economics.

  • @bucky

    Thanks for proving my point to Rowan about being thin-skinned. One request for substantiation, a gentle jab about having had one too many, and here you are right on cue squealing about slinging insults and some nonsense about s&m orgies. All I had to do was mention your name.

    You find slinging insults fun and games until the other side returns fire

    Yeah, because that's pretty much all I do in here, is sling insults day in and day out.

    Don't you find it hard, typing with that mirror in front of your face?

    You're right about one thing, though: telling Rowan or anyone that they sounds like you was a harsh insult, indeed. Rowan, I apologize.