Letters to the Editor
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Arne/Digby.... Torture.... "enhanced interrogation techniques".... @ 4:16.
That was a depressing read at Digby. Thanks. It is a vomit era. The GOPS are pathetic. So depraved Ill. Totally Depraved? Totally Disgraced. Never Mistake the GOPS as human. Frauds.
It'd too bad that with all the latest technology advancement, that there is not a 'mental health detector' that could be placed at the heart of a person?
O hypocrite! *Woe* Woe bumper stinkers. Free for cars?
I mean.... like at the airport, schools, and courthouses.
The Homeland Security officials could have a detector.
The Metal?
A mental health basket case GOP siren blares to warn.
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What rezo capetti wrote keeps pounding in by heart....
*Ogni medaglia ha suo riverso* *Ogni medagalia ha suo riverso* *Ogni medaglia ha suo riverso*
*Every medal has its obverse*
*Every MEDIA has its obverse* `Every Media has its obverse` Every MEDIA has its obverse`
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The "vigorous" pro-war folk has surpassed the ugly shamelessness period. The existence of such wretched 'critters' is not justified. I suggest the keeping it up~ridicules... is apart of the Justice in motion process. These empty straw-stubble "journalist" are worst than shameless. The profession of death endorsement (concocted war lies) of those in the pro-killing profession, whether in the media, DoJ, DOD, or any government agency, or right-winger-mentality.... must be escorted from public life.
It's Sad. What rezo capetti writes : But it is sober minded.
My sense, based on experience working with those who have experienced war's horrors...
Suicides are sometimes a murder. Hush. The soldier, or contracted interrogator etc., (circumstances are unique), may take their own life (suicide) at some later date to obliterate memory. A person may self-medicate, pop pills, snort.
Suicide is the coward method, if the topic is war crimes.
Let's not go off topic and mention mea culpa euthanasia.
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The outdoors here are filled with noises and beautiful sights. Mountains surround me. The sunshine light shines on chipmunks scampering into stone walls, doves are cooing, howls are hooting, a distant dog barks, a donkey he-haws, a sheep goes baa. Birds that learned to sing from the ancients (ancestral) are a lovely chorus. Nature encompasses people if they let it to entertain and transform/heal people.
Cicero said somewhere .... (?) When it was Aesop's turn to speak about politico's who are full of themselves, Aesop said there are people in rule who know what? "Nothing!" .... "The lot knows nothing, and boast they know everything." huh. same-same. can-can.
Michael de` Montaigne would say, "talk to a former soldier who's wounded"
.... huh....
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Ground control to Klein
Why on earth did our stalwart British allies join the predictably feckless Europeans in this dimwitted and loathesome orgy of recriminations? [...]
And I believe that the US is abiding by the spirit of the Geneva Convention
My brain simply fails to grasp the utter shallowness, stupidity, the total lack of historical knowledge and the self-chosen ignorance vainly sold as expertise contained in these words.
Honestly, it's too much. Where did he go to school? What books did/does he read? Which planet is he living on?
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Broders' gone
need a full-court press on TIME editors to get rid of Joe Klein.
If they don't respond- editor should have to explain who and why Joe Klein is allowed to write such bs..
Boycott Time if necessary-drop subscriptions.
Water-carriers should be shown the same door voters are showing the GOP.
Buhbye and good riddance.
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Don't write bad words on the walls. The good news. It's never a boring moment. (no mention bowel movements anymore) If you do need to go, sit in a cottage or go to a bower. Find a quiet wood oak outhouse. Write on graphite. Silly.
It's been a perfect rainy Spring.
Shitake mushrooms are spores
Hymenomycetes are in 'sii' oaks.
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nit 'sii', but 'shii' mushrooms in dead 'shii' white oak trees.
Lease this 'nut' house for free?
It's a treat to eat free morels.
Send humans to the woods.
Look for a little green stick.
On the stick is a big secret.
War mongers live in hell.
I read 'um are 'hellbent'.
That's a good old word.
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nit nit. Not. no tie the knot? Arne? elope. date antelopes? silly. hush up. a public nit is a nuisance. I agree.
Who is divorced from reality? Blood thirsty GOPS who lust for money.
Who is a raging lunatic? Ask the conscience? It gives a Instant Message.
A asthmatic creeps, such as The Klein Gang's Team, are afraid to fall to sleep.
'Um boast that they show the countrymen, and women the way. In reality? Collapses.
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@ Bobswire
-Thanks for people like you...
a bit of truth slices through the slime since those sons-a-bitches don't control the internet.-
That is mostly true for the moment....
CRTC launching probe into internet traffic shaping
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2008/05/14/tech-caip.html
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"Winter heat"?
What's he talkin bout?
Cuba's north of the equator. It's hot in summer.
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The passage about cave-wear is fascinating. Klein genuinely believes these people are animals. "Hey, at least they're not eating garbage and living on the street. They get a nice room and 3 squares a day until we send them to the slaughterhouse and put the bolt gun to their heads. What's inhumane?"
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Northwestwoods
When Klein takes a walk in the wood,
he is a naked albino bunny hopping.
Klein hopes no one sees him `a stoop.
The gang in DC play tag in the woods
The pro-war crew carry "Charmin' tp.
A normal possum carries corn cobs.
UT reader @ Salon? Use a green leaf.
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Jim Haynes
"In September 2002, Haynes visited Guantanamo, accompanied by Addington, Gonzales, and Rizzo. There he met Mike Dunlavey and Diane Beaver, who described herself as 'scared' when she first met him, even if he seemed like a 'very nice man.' It was clear to her that Addington was in charge. Interrogations were discussed, and the visiting lawyers observed at least one. They were particularly interested in al-Qahtani. 'They wanted to know what we were doing to get this guy,' Dunlavey told me.
"The OLC memos from Bybee and Yoo went to Gonzales and Rizzo but Haynes knew what they said. Jon Yoo confirmed that implicitly. He said he thought that only the CIA should be involved in aggressive interrogation, but that 'people at the White House and at DoD felt differently,' apparently referring to Addington, Gonzales and Haynes. Others were more explicit. Doug Feith said that the decision to proceed on the eighteen techniques 'was a thoroughly interagency piece of work for the lawyers, as far as I understood, from day one.' General Hill had asked expressly for DoJ approval, and Haynes had told Rumsfeld that 'the lawyers who need to review this have reviewed this.' General Myers concurred about Haynes's knowledge. 'He would be the one who would have known about the Justice effort,' he said, referring to an 'intrigue' that ' was probably occurring between Jim Haynes, White House General Counsel and Justice. Alberto Mora was certain that Haynes was 'in the loop' because the detainees were in DoD custody.
"By October, Dunlavey's request had reached the Pentagon and Haynes was fully engaged. General Myers's 'main interraction' on this subject was with Jane Dalton, General Hill, Rumsfeld and Jim Haynes. He went over the eighteen techniques with Haynes and believed that all the techniques 'came out of the book, there weren't any techniques invented.' Haynes as General Counsel [to Rumsfeld] didn't disabuse him. Doug Feith said that during the key period the authorization of the eighteen techniques were mainly issues for Haynes and Stephen Cambone.
"On November 23, Rumsfeld gave the verbal command allowing the aggressive interrogation of al-Qahtani."
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"Twice in mid-December, Alberto Mora [general counsel to the secretary of the Navy] confronted Haynes with further concerns about detainee abuse. On both occasions Mora found Haynes to be impassive and the aggressive interrogation of al-Qahtani continued for four more weeks. In the middle of January, Mora returned to Haynes and told him that he would send a written memo raising concerns unless Rumsfeld suspend the authorization of al-Qahtani's interrogation. Only after that did Haynes buckle."
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"A couple of weeks after the Supreme Court decision [June 2006, ruling against 2002 OLC opinions on waiving Geneva requirements] Haynes appeared before the Senate Judiciary Committee, in hearings on his nomination to be a Court of Appeals judge on the Fourth Circuit. He had an opportunity to set the record straight and move on from his earlier role, but he failed to take it, misjudging the mood. Twenty retired military leaders, including several former Judge Advocate Generals, wrote to the Judiciary Committee to express 'profound concern' about the nomination and his role in interrogation policies that had led to the abuse of detainees and 'a dangerous abrogation of the military's long-standing commitment to the rule of law.' The abandonment of Geneva was a central concern. While Haynes did not bear sole responsibility for the decisions, they wrote, he was 'arguably in the strongest position of any other senior government official to sound the alarm' because he had heard the concerns of the uniformed Judge Advocates General. Instead he 'muted those concerns, rather than amplify them."
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"The session (Haynes's appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee) lasted about an hour and a half and most of it was devoted to the Haynes memo.. While some senators defended him, the majority engaged in a frenzied attack led by Sen. Ted Kennedy, and Sen. Lindsay Graham who, although a Republican had been a JAG lawyer and knew all about Geneva. The encounter was bloody and unpleasant, although it did make for gripping television.
"Haynes's strategy looked familiar: it was the same as that adopted at the post-Abu Ghraib press conference. The difficulty he faced was that the world had moved on, even if he hadn't. The request to use new techniques came from Guantanamo, he said, from 'an aggressive Major General' [Dunlavey]. It was 'accompanied by legal review by the Staff Judge Advocate at Guantanamo.' They had concluded that the use of stress positions and other techniques was 'legal under the circumstances.' He didn't seek any other legal advices and none were given. 'I do not recall an opinion on this matter from the Legal Counsel of the Joint Chiefs of Staff,' Haynes said. He didn't consult with any of the JAGS before signing off. Dunlavey's request was an operational issue concerning interrogations during war. 'I did not believe that it was necessary to coordinate with the TJAGs,' he said.
"What about the OLC's Justice Department memos? 'No, I did not seek a written opinion from the Department of Justice,' he retorted, avoiding the key issue of whether he had knowledge of the contents of the Bybee and Yoo memos before he wrote and then sent out his memos. [snip] 'The August 1, 2002 Memorandum was addressed to the then-White House Counsel Alberto Gonzales,' he told Sen. Arlen Specter. 'I did not have a copy of it and I did not shape its legal analysis.' No one then pose the logical follow-up question: had he read it or was he otherwise aware of its contents? When we met this would be my central question, and I would be sure to give him every opportunity to answer. But the answer was blindingly clear: given every opportunity to say he didn't know what was in those opinions when he wrote his memo, he failed to do so."
---Phillippe Sands
---TORTURE TEAM
---2008, Palgrave/MacMillan