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Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:00 AM

"Actual journalists" as government spokespeople

New documents obtained by the ACLU shed more light on the U.S. torture regime and how "actual journalism" works.

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Wednesday, May 14, 2008 06:21 PM

quickstrategy:

The invasion of Iraq is looking more and more like one big homosexual panic.

What worries me is that I think you just gave the conspirators their legal defense strategy. :>

Instead of the "diminished capacity" defense, they have "diminished masculinity?"

Sure, a Bush-appointed judge might buy that.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 06:24 PM

Hurl Check (TM)

Quickstrategy, I long for that icon on my keyboard, too. There are a couple of blank keys; shall I go to MacForce and see what they can do? Anyway, I was naturally (and delightedly) peeking out between the fingers covering my eyes when the Eww/Hurl topics were being discussed, and my fainting couch managed to remain undented. I just liked your name better, and I did want to hurl, so I thought it fit.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 06:28 PM

@ Jim White re: NLG white paper

You're welcome. Someone has to keep things on track while the boys play with their power toys. ;-}

Thabnks for thinking to share it here. It's definitely powerful stuff.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 06:34 PM

@DCLaw1

I was thinking of that 'gay panic' thing, wasn't it the guy who murdered another guy who confessed a crush on him on Jenny Jones or some such? And didn't every other homophobe basher try to cash in on that for years afterwards?

I could see some of these guys, the usual toughs whose spines turn to jello, making this argument that they were all atwitter and just had to ... um, invade, torture, whatever ...

Actually, I was thinking of some equivalent to that SNL skit from when we bombed Kosovo, when the Republicans suddenly turned anti-war, featuring Jesse Helms and others carrying 'Hell No, We Won't Go' signs, and whimpering about the jack-booted thugs of the Clinton administration. Can you picture it? Want to star in it? Who would you want to play? :>

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 06:35 PM

He was savaged in comments there over that line

And I'm happy to say I helped lead the charge.

Third, look at the record. Tell me where I've been misled by my sources.

It really is absurd isn't it?

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 06:48 PM

Do You Say Hi To Your Neighbor??

"Which just goes to show our (American) belief in rightiousness is really strictly defined by our needs."

I'm not sure if 'righteousness' isn't just a mask for vindictiveness. The need to lash out & hurt something. Retribution. Americans (not all, of course) can be a vindictive people -- the urge to get back at someone. Payback time. "I'll get you if it's the last tihing I ever do, you SOB . . . ". Isn't torture a form of this? Taking it out on someone, even if they are helpless? The need to humiliate, to turn the screws, to dominate, to kick the guy when he's down? Look at our leaders -- Dubya ( http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/rugby.asp ) at least he ain't smirking. Dick (The Fudd) Cheney(canned hunting, anyone?). But you know is really really really scary about this isn't the fact that our leaders condone this stuff, and that morons like Joke Klein & Rush Limbaugh sluff it off as much ado about nothing. The scary thing is that there are people out there who will actually do this to other people. And they could be living next door to you. How'd you like it to know that your next door neighbor had the same conscience as an insect?? Scary.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 06:58 PM

Hurl check it is!

Though I am thoroughly dissappointed I didn't manage to cause Cocktailhag to muss the cushions on the fainting couch. Did you at least have to reach for the smelling salts?

Margalis - I saw you storming the battlements. He really put his foot into it up to his hip.

I mean his nostrils are literally stuffed with the gauntlets he's thrown down that have come flying back at him and still he never learns!

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 07:00 PM

quickstrategy:

Actually, I was thinking of some equivalent to that SNL skit from when we bombed Kosovo, when the Republicans suddenly turned anti-war, featuring Jesse Helms and others carrying 'Hell No, We Won't Go' signs, and whimpering about the jack-booted thugs of the Clinton administration. Can you picture it? Want to star in it? Who would you want to play? :>

I call Newt, I call Newt!

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 07:11 PM

Joe Klein

Joe Klein is to journalism what George Bush is to public speaking. At least Bush's term is coming to an end.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 07:31 PM

Countdown nailed Junior

Olbermann’s rant tonight was on that interview.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/24635229#24635229

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 07:35 PM

Cushion Pushin'

Pedinska, I like Hurl Check because unlike "Ewww," it avoids anything that activates the spell check, and although I'm generally in favor of onomatopoeias, I prefer that they have an agreed-upon spelling. Also, "hurl" seems much more dramatic and urgent than a mere "ewww."

Thanks, QS...

As I'm sure you know by now, that fainting couch is seldom ever pressed into service; the cushions remained unflattened. Hurling occurs in another room.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:01 PM

@ quickstrategy

'Hurl Check' would be better if someone could show me how to add that TM sign, like Arne's EedjitBlaster. But me, I like it. :>

Here's how.

Type:

HurlCheck™

That oughtta do it.

Happy HTMLing!

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:07 PM

hURL check...

and it also has a "cyber" ring to it.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:08 PM

@bubbee - You can play with lipstick and pigs all you like

Zionism, by its definition, demands war, demands racism. How else to explain the expulsions, the demolitions, the lands grabbed via the death of innocents?

I am most definitely not confused, and the historical record, starting with 1896, will back me up. This is not ignorance speaking. Those who agree with Iseroff should perhaps adopt a new moniker in order to avoid the aspersions.

You can't pretend it's benign. It's like putting lipstick on a pig.

But perhaps you would be better off with a more academic approach from scholars as opposed to propagandists and because there are so many kinds of Zionism you have never even heard of before. You just sound like an idiot bordering on anti-semitism.

Start here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:09 PM

eeewww

HurlCheck™

Picture Jebbie in a unikini like Borak.

That'll do it.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:16 PM

Re; Who first came up with the moniker "Joke Line?"

Guess.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:57 PM

PONY

Jebbie... I thought of you today; on Thom Hartmann's radio program, they had a sex worker advocate, whose name was "Audacia" on and she spoke eloquently about the rights of sex workers. Thom, always an advocate of organized labor, asked if hookers like Audacia had ever tried to organize, and she mentioned a group called "Prostitute of New York." aka PONY.

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