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Wednesday, May 14, 2008 12:00 AM

Tom Friedman's latest declaration of war

The nation's leading foreign policy pundit finds the new Soviet Union.

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Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:25 AM

normankelley

I think Rob Mac was being sarcastic. Wasn't he?

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:27 AM

Cold War = Stalemate

I find Friedman's column disjointed, drifting, and confused. But I take it that by using the "cold war" term, he is attempting to put a 'period' at the end of the Bush effort in the Middle East. He's acknowleging that the 'hot war' has failed, that things are worse. Essentially, he's retrenching, re-setting.

But his general tenor is still one of the imperialist, who, after experiencing failure after failure after failure, still doesn't perceive that the entire approach may be fatally flawed. That perhaps our whole approach to the region needs to be reconsidered. No, he still thinks that we can somehow, by dint of hot or cold pressure, tinker with the internal affairs of other countries, in an incredibly complex part of the world, and "fix" them.

Most of all, his disjointed thoughts make me want to hear someone else--Samantha Power perhaps, or Zbig Brezinski. People to whom the word "nuance" doesn't equate with baseball bats, two-by-fours, or "suck on this" (and for that matter--"phallic eyes").

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:30 AM

Jkalos

Phallic eye:

http://tinyurl.com/3wpgyr

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:32 AM

Thomas Friedman's World

Patient: "Doctor please help me. I have a horrible tooth ache and it hurts whenever I bite down on a spoonful of rocks".

Doctor Thomas: "You have an abscess tooth and it's only going to get worse if let it go on and it's going to really hurt if you continue to try to chew on rocks. We must begin immediate daily sessions where we will examine your big toe and start yelling at it. We will call your friends to come over to help us yell at your big toe."

Patient: "But how does that help"?

Doctor Thomas: "Never mind that. You are too insignificant to understand and I'm a very serious, very smart foreign policy expert who has written books and been on TV".

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:34 AM

Party like it's 1979

But we've been "at war" with Iran since 1979. The neocons told me so.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:36 AM

No resist. Go with the flow.

normankelley. Rob Mak steals kleenex tissue? shirt sleeve cuffs? Who knows? No body. I hope.

Ron Mak? O Maybe Ron Mak can sing soprano in a crock? He may be a GOP who steals peoples crocks and flip flops? He needs to add more to his name? Call the cell #? xxxxoxxxxxx, okay.

Yell~; 'Hey Crock, You Rob Mack and May?

Then, and Who Next? Check your pockets. no pick noses.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:39 AM

Completely uncalled for

-- Pedinska

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:30 AM

Don't know what that was supposed to be.

Don't wanna know.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:41 AM

Iran executed about 300,000 people ex judicio in 1979

Well you know you got to break a few oeufs to make a scromblette, dontchya.

In the Great Depression, unemployment was about 25% or roughly what it is today in Iran where only on Salon would that be cheered as a great and revolutionary success. Sometimes you have to wonder just who pays Glenn Greenwald. my bet is 5 to 3 it's Iran.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:43 AM

I think RobMac's comments need a little clarification

It is certainly true that Persia had empires at various times in the last few millennia but the last time they actually attacked anybody was about 250 years ago. As opposed to say 250 days ago for the Israelis. I think Shrub has done well, we haven't invaded anybody in about 5 years. Can you remember the last time we went for a whole five years between invasions or attacks?

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:51 AM

Bamage

Here's a hint:

The Zune, Microsoft’s answer to Apple’s iPod, is being marketed on television and computer screens with Zune Artist Films, a series of animated art videos around the theme of music, sharing and friendship. One particular video, “Eyes”, has got people talking.
Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:55 AM

I love....

...the false equivalency of "Country X killed Y number of people, so it's now our job to kill Z number of their people."

That's worked so well in Iraq.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:56 AM

@normankelly

I was being sarcastic, too. Notice that I said it was the RWNM types who would remind us of the embassy storming and that that event proved Cleveland was next.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:57 AM

Filters?

Is there a way to filter/ignore a specific poster? While I have no doubt the hallucinogens ‘ElectroRobot’ takes cause him euphoric joy, having to sift through his irrelevant drivel, self-loathing comments, and Greenwald-envy on every page is very irritating.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:57 AM

Concise History of Iran

Historic periods and events

http://www.iranchamber.com/history/historic_periods.php

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 08:59 AM

Iran's nuclear program

Why, considering all of this "Serious" foreign policy speculation in the US and Israel about preemptive strikes on Iran, wouldn't rational Iranian defense officals consider a nuclear weapons program a top priority -- simply as a deterrent?

Do our Serious foreign-policy "experts" give any consideration to how this talk plays in Iran? We seem to be determined to maneuver the Iranians into our worst-case scenario.

Remember, there were pro-American demonstrations in Tehran after 9/11 and the Iranians assisted us in Afghanistan after our invasion. We gave that up just so Bush could use that cute "Axis of Evil" line.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 09:01 AM

Bamage

More from the Zune ad:

A pink phallic-looking creature on legs (what Tokyo Plastic refer to as a ‘fleshy wonder’) wanders around aimlessly, relying on touch on account of having no eyes. It bumps into a much larger creature which turns out to have many eyes. In fact the new creature has the capacity to share it’s eyes and, after a bit of straining, pops one out for the little creature.

I'm guessing the ad didn't go far what with the FCC fines and all.

Friedman was there. Apparently he has no eyes either. Or maybe it's his ears that are defective...... :-s

Ca we start calling him the "fleshy wonder"? Or would that be Rush??

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 09:01 AM

ronshepston. golly. I read that three times.

I read Baldie McEagle, Oh boy. wow. I read 'P' and Derbig too. ETC.,

The part about yelling at the toe? okay. Go to Dunking Stumptoes?

Order ~; I hope you loiter. Don't litter. order,

Order ~; from a stunned coffee clerk, a black coffee for dunking a nose and sore toe.

sing soprano with the head stuck in the crock bucket. Sing so low no one hears you.

Wednesday, May 14, 2008 09:01 AM

''Elp, 'elp, oim being Opressed!

Apologies to the late Dudley Moore, but I think of this skit every time I read something like this:

... Since you're genetically incapable of concocting one of your own original thoughts...
Was there something else, [...] or do you have some more insults you wish to hurl at me...
-- Electro Robot

A veritable font of respectful disagreement -- that's our Electro Robot.

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