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Do DoD e-mails reveal the involvement of the White House, contrary to prior denials?
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  • Political appointees knew illegality

    Sorry I left out link to the political appointee chastising for use of "softball".

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/05/dont_say_softball.php

    Also, Allison Barber, is the political appointee who staged the fake presser in Iraq in 2005:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2005/10/13/behind-the-scenes-photo-op/

    In other words, White House Political (Rove) is all up in this propaganda program, and they knew if discovered for what it was they would be implicated in illegality.

  • @ GG

    Facts have a well-known liberal bias, therefore looking for facts is clearly partisan behavior.

  • Rove

    Barber's emails, and various news stories going back to '05 at least, seem to pretty solidly indicate that these strategies by DoD were internally developed. But that doesn't mean that Rove couldn't be briefed and informed about them, or that they couldn't have been coordinated in some way with Rove. If I remember right, it was in 2006/7 that Rove's people were travelling from agency to agency giving their powerpoints on "how can we help our people"--for which Doan got clobbered.

    All it would take is an email going from someone at Di Rita's level up to the WH--but so far nobody has found anything like that. In fact, are any emails in the dump going to anyone outside of DoD? are they ALL internal?

  • casual_observer

    Barber's emails, and various news stories going back to '05 at least, seem to pretty solidly indicate that these strategies by DoD were internally developed. But that doesn't mean that Rove couldn't be briefed and informed about them, or that they couldn't have been coordinated in some way with Rove.

    Assuming that the "karl" in this email refers to Karl Rove -- and though I can't be certain, it seems like a good bet for several reasons -- then this is evidence of them not only briefing Rove on activities of the Military Analyst program, but even answering to him about it (hence the fear that they not mention Afghanistan lest they have to explain to him why it didn't happen).

    I'm not saying this is the most incriminating piece of evidence in the world, but it is suggestive of precisely the type of White House knowledge and involvement which Perino denied.

    All it would take is an email going from someone at Di Rita's level up to the WH--but so far nobody has found anything like that. In fact, are any emails in the dump going to anyone outside of DoD? are they ALL internal?

    Virtually all of the emails are internal to this small DoD group (and to the outside analysts). When they do reference others, the identity is often blocked out. This is one of the very, very few references to anyone outside DoD (again, assuming it's Rove).

  • Carl Rove

    This man is evil, of that there can be little doubt. This man would do anything and I'll be surprise if it turns out he was not involved.

    However, it goes back to the argument we have been having for over a year at least. If impeachment is off the table with this sorry bunch, then we have no hope for the rule of law. Why are the Democrats unable to punish (by using the law) anyone?

    If we do not impeach someone from the Bush II administration, then impeachment as a tool is dead.

  • Could it be that one reason these documents are now public....

    is that nearly all emails to the outside have been removed? Real men draw a line. Everyone below the line gets thrown to the wolves; everyone above the line is safe.

  • Outside E-Mails

    Regarding Mike Sulzer's question as to whether e-mails directed outside the pentagon have been culled from the released materials, we can be certain that any e-mails to the White House were pulled. The fact that an e-mail containing a stray reference to Rove was released will probably cost someone their job.

  • I just watched the video again

    It's striking how rude Perino was to Brewer. She interrupted him twice while he was trying to frame his question. As he was quoting and summarizing the findings of the NYTimes article, she rudely said "Is that your opinion?", clearly in an attempt to make it look like he was editorializing. She did not come off well in this at all.

    I also noticed that Brewer was given a seat along side Helen Thomas, who was in her traditional front and center seat. Is the press finally starting to show some reverence to those who have the courage to ask the tough questions?

  • "partisan" and some other thoughts

    The partisan

    "There are only so many lies you can take, and now there has been one too many. Nixon should get his ass out of the White House today."

    - Barry Goldwater, (R) in 1974 even more revelations implicating Nixon in Watergate came to light)

    I googled it out of curiousity:

    In politics, partisan literally means organized into political parties. The expression "Partisan politics" usually refers to fervent, sometimes militant support of a party, cause, faction, person, or idea. Although this is typically an appellation with negative connotations, some supporters embrace the term, as can be seen by the names of the following publications:

    * Partizan Press, a UK publishing company.

    * Partisan Review, a US political and literary quarterly.

    * Southern Partisan, a US political magazine.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partisan

    Partisan (political)

    In politics, a partisan is a committed member of a party.

    In multi-party systems, the term is typically understood to describe a person who supports their party's measures without an eye to fairness or compromise with their opponents.

    Partisanship can be affected by many factors including current events, figure-heads(Presidents), decisions, and even location.

    In Commonwealth Realms, for example, the monarch is seen as being distinctly non-partisan and thus is vested with certain powers to form or dissolve governments when there is a democratic impasse. This is in contrast to professional politicians who are expected to push for their party's interests.

    In the United States, the meaning of the term has changed dramatically over the last 50 years. Before the American National Election Study (described in Angus Campbell, et al, in The American Voter) began in 1952, an individual's partisan tendencies were typically determined from their voting behavior. Since then, "partisan" has come to refer to an individual with a psychological identification with one or the other of the major parties.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partisan_%28political%29

    That's not Glenn. Everyone knows he's a High Broderian Libertarian Anarchist!

    And he'll be a very old High Broderian Libertarian Anarchist before he gets any response from this administration on a FOIA request.