Israel is a nuclear-armed power. Israel's nuclear arsenal could destroy the entire Muslim world with no assistance required from the United States.

So with that in mind, is the subject of American "support" for Israel based on anything other than theology? It's certainly not based on realpolitik.

This type of "Israel-right-or-wrong" support is bad for America and bad for Israel -- as evidenced by American support for Israel's ruthless and ultimately counterproductive bombing campaign against Lebanon.

Of course, one can sympathize with Barack Hussein Obama's attempt to prove to the yokels that he isn't a Muslim by establishing his pro-Israel bonafides.

I don't know the fellow, quickdraw, but I am almost sure you can't get oil out of the ground with an airplane. Not even the stealthy ones.

:bah.

What can you tell us about U.S. Vs. Rosen and how this investigation and trial are being ignored by the MSm and the progressives.

You know why it is being ignored. It involves potential wrongdoing by It Which Cannot Be Named: Our dual-citizen, bipartisan friends at AIPAC.

You basically said you already read antiwar.com (Raimondo), I'm pretty sure GG visits antiwar.com as well, why would GG know something that Raimondo doesn't about the trial? Wouldn't it be the other way around, since Raimondo is the one who has his eagle eyes on the trial, and writes pretty extensively about the dealings of groups like AIPAC?

Does every American Jew truly believe that sowing destruction in the Middle East is always in the best interest of Israel?

Of course not, and according to the polls, neither do most Israelis, or most people for that matter. It is merely what the establishment tells us on TV to get us good and feared up, making it easier to feed us our daily doses of propaganda and lies.

It is also pretty hilarious to read the excuses of Zionists. It's always the evil brown people that are the barrier to peace with their bloodlust, all based on false, generalized stereotypes, when the polling data says the opposite. The other side says the exact same thing. Gee, a couple of bigots claiming that the other one is a warmongering barbarian, incapable of reasoning. Never heard that bullshit story before...

Kind of like the situation we face regarding Israel. The polls show that most Arabs don't "Hate us for our Freedom" and the polls also show that Jews, inside and outside of Israel, are not all the Neoconservatives and Likudniks, but want peace as well.

But peace doesn't promote fear which can be exploited to maintain power and extract profit. Peace and security make it difficult to sell missiles and bombs, do you expect the criminal class, the death merchants, and the banksters to work hard for their money like a bunch of rubes? Like us? Yeah right, anarchy for the rich, surveillance state socialism for the poor, and bombs and cages for everyone else. The ingredients of 21st century empire.

You beat me to it on the "whaling wall".

I was looking for a Norway link. :>

BTW, since you've identified your Undisclosed Location in Ohio ... my wife is from Sandusky, her family are all those German Catholics that settled in Norwalk. Her first newspaper job was for the Warren Tribune, covering the economic collapse ov the early 80s. We keep running into other expatriated Ohioans here in GA. It's like you can all spot each other on sight ...

If anyone on the left wanted to do a Swift-Boat act on the neo-cons, Israel would be the issue to choose.

"Are you a Patriot? Do you put your country First?"

"Not John McCain and the Republicans."

"For them, Israel comes first. Their policies are based on helping Israel - EVEN IF IT HURTS AMERICA!"

"For the Republicans, Israel comes first."

I wonder how THAT would play in the Carolinas?

Question: Finding Obama guilty of insufficient devotion to Israel: Has there ever been another country besides Israel to which American politicians are required to vow absolute allegiance?

Answer: Yes. The country is: the US of A.

The McCain attack will be on grounds of patriotism and depth of devotion. Sure, maybe Obama says he loves his country (and Israel), but does he really love it? Does he love America like McWarHero does? Does he love Israel like Joe Lieberman loves Israel?

And all McCain has to do is quote Rambo III and reduce our mideast foreign policy to "I'm [Hamas'] worst nightmare," and pimp out Boehner and Lieberman to twist the Hamas "endorsement" of Obama. Where's the requisite grilling of McCain's middle east policy in our fair and balanced coverage? I'm sure the press is dying to cover the nuances of Israel's statehood, but the American public isn't interested. Riiiight. That's why the minority opinion on Israel directs the coverage. The press are simply the helpless lemmings of a consumer news culture.

And BTW, McCain is plagiarising Giuliani's oh-so-successful Iowa radio and flyer ad against MoveOn.org: "Why is MoveOn.org attacking Rudy Guiliani? Because I'm their worst nightmare." Link, as always, in sig.

Long after all other religions (excepting, now I think of it, Islam) had abandoned any pretense of being, in and of themselves sufficient as an organising basis for a country, let alone a colonial project, a bunch of novelists, fanatics and public relations experts sold that idea to the Jews. And we were just desperate enough to bite.

And so the most precious thing Judaism had, a religion and culture which could survive all over the world, became hostage to the exigencies of manning a western bridgehead in the Middle East.

So all of a sudden Jews had a country. Something we needed like a hole in the head, frankly, and especially where they decided it just had to be, in their fantasy "Holy Land".

Perhaps some Zionist can refresh my Jewish mind; What was it Jews were supposed to do for God in Israel that they couldn't do anywhere else?

And what was it God was supposed to do for the Jews in Israel that he couldn't do for them (or not do, as He chooses) anywhere else?

I never have figured that out.