Christ on a crutch man, you and Rowan Berkeley just keep on with such ignorant ranting about libertarians, imputing to them evil (and largely wrong) beliefs, even after Glenn politely asked for all this nonsense to stop. So I won't engage either of you on your gross substantive errors since that would only fuel what Glenn is asking to have cease (as well as waste my time); but after a baseless screed about libertarians, for you to conclude about them with this:

Charles Manson comes to mind.

Is really exceptionally vile. -- -Mona-

I agree, but I would point out they are funny! I have about 10 more pages to go but I do not think I'll ever see anything as funny as the idea that believe in the lack of the modern state would lead to Manson worship! Come on Mona, that was a hoot!

The one fool made up a quote by me, but I am laughing so hard I really do not care.

I'll say this, anyone who wants to make Glenn's blog look like only crazies and fools make comments here would do well to bookmark the rantings we saw late last night.

Sophia Loren comes to mind.

What really irritates me is that, as long as I talk about my own feelings, and reassure them of how much I love them really (which I do), I can post away on the comments threads at Haaretz to my heart’s content, but the moment I try to undermine any of their terror propaganda, like today, by drawing their attention to the fact that the Lebanese crisis has been defused to the mortification of the USA and its puppets, they refuse to print the comment.

Though, actually, every newspaper, even the Independent, has its own little neocolonial hobbyhorse, which no-one is allowed to cast doubt upon.

I suppose I shouldn’t say things like this, if I want a job, but when world war looms, one stops worrying about feathering one’s own nest, or even about being thrown off Jobseeker’s Benefit.

You may be getting older, but I think it's safe to say I'm your senior.

I rather doubt that. And if so, only by a couple of years. Let's just say I reject your GAIA theories of policing a free society and criminal justice. Having a mechanism for the arrest, prosecution and imprisonment of large segments of the population for ingesting substances is greater societal harm than the occasional mugging which will occur for prized Air Jordans of money to buy comic books, CD, or video games. Some of the answers to the questions you pose in counter argument are so obvious as to make me wonder why you posed them at all. If you have had legal training, it is clear you specialized in obfuscation and burying the opposition in discovery and documentation, most of it irrelevant. You also refuse to address the salient points of your opponent's arguments. You do this often.

Mona,

I'm not sure Glenn was talking so much about that as the other thing Arne and I were discussing, but don't want to discuss openly. Even I, a fellow "liberal" have suggested some of J's ideas tend to the absurd. The truth is serious flaws in any ideology taken to ridiculous extremes become readily apparent. The minute ideology trumps practicality the object of harm reduction gets thrown out the window. Any ideology carried to extremes could be as scary as Manson. I don't think poor libertarians deserve all the heat. There is enough to go around. Live and let live is a liberal/libertarian principle but carried to some ridiculous extremes we get the aberrations we are all familiar with.

..."if I want a job"...

I usually enjoy the comments. I'm new to words like "Libertarian" etc., and spent energies and younger years focused on agrarian/environment issues. It's strange to me that people will "ambush" another with a verbal barrage, knowing zilch, literally, about the other person they attack . Listen.

...."if I want a job"...

In the early 80's I went to a job interview with my diaper pants, first born son. I was a "househusband"... Michael pooped in the chair a serious stinky. I never got a job rejection letter. I knew. I knew a flunked it ~; I failed to impress the potential boss-aspect of the "first impression".... I knew I flunked. Good.

The strangest comments (Mine? Etc.,) are the angered-at-the-world ones, IM`Opine. I slice through them for worry I'll contract a hoof-in-the-mouth disease. If reading 8,000 pages is complete, and a carpenter with a hammer can recycle one rusty nail... Great. Build.

...."if I want a job"... scrolling for a right-wing, or left-wing stink tank with a hidden agenda.... I want No part of it. No edifice will ever be.

.....I'd fail the job interview. I'd be tempted to intentionally fart audibly?

...."if I want a job"... I'd hope I'd not sell my soul to the company store or the Pentagon citadel. WHY become a lowly water boy and get filthy lucre by endorsing the big Lie? That's a lot of spilt blood I'd not want spend doing a thorough self-examine about myself.... about. err.

I'm not wishing to appear self-righteously about military know-it-all. I've been on the grunt-lowly foot-pounder, and belly crawler-level.... I am not for the Draft. The war is criminal. Of course, simply said, a nation needs a military defense. I will say.... "if I want a job"... anywhere, including military, or politics.... stateside.... I'd Not enjoy a "boss" or enjoy the network-associates staff, who is verbally aggressive, or looks for a vice of imperfection to highlight in another person. Put-down folk seems to desire to thrive doing just that? It appears there is a twisted delight in a role of assassination of fellow-humanities reputation/character.

I opine it's just plain vile. It's a "weird" participation in a sorta of blog-warfare. It's apparent some blog commenters desire to wound. It's to want to inflict some vague pain. It's not a "friendly frag".... but to be employed at aiming to inflict pain, it gives me no small amout of a disgust sensation when I read it. "Live and let live?" Not if people are killing, etc., and ideas will potential lead into a carnage of war.

I'd rather change a child's poop pants.

It's often beyond common language.

Thus. Show the absurdity. Depravity.