Greenwald says, 'The public has long been inculcated with the notion that we have a "liberal media" ...'

It's possible for the public to believe the media is liberally biased and, at the same time, that the media (e.g., military 'experts') have sold out to the right.

This is the genius of the american way of thinking. One dismisses this at one's own peril.

Totally agree about Powell. I was going to cite some similar thoughts and now I don't have to. Well maybe just one. In addition to politics, Powell rose to be chairman of the JCS because people like me fought for him to have a level playing field to perform on. Then he discriminates against homosexuals by pushing the hypocritical "don't ask, don't tell." When I was with US Central Command, almost all senior

Army officers and generals told me how much disgust they had for Powell using politics to rise in the Army instead of paying his dues.

It's possible for the public to believe the media is liberally biased and, at the same time, that the media (e.g., military 'experts') have sold out to the right.

Is more polarized now than it has been in sometime.

It is possible that the political right thinks the media has a liberal bias on many issues including the war, and that the political left thinks the media has a "consevatve bias" on many issues including the war. In fact, some recent polling seems to ndicate this is the case.

Most of America is opposed to the war, both left and rght, so the war is more a case of the media having sold out to the current administration. It is not really accrate to cast the war as a left/right issue. It confuses things. I think it is moe a matter of politics than ideology.

Decides when we go to war. The media sold out to them.

The MIC has comapny now. The Prison Industrial Complex.

http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/199812/prisons

Last month, the Nevada GOP convention ended in chaos, as Paul supporters were poised to be elected to a majority of the 31 state delegate slots before party leaders abruptly adjourned the gathering without picking the national delegates. Paul supporters cried foul and shouted that the process was rigged...

"-- L.W.M. Saturday, May 10, 2008 08:13 PM"

Why would "Libertarian" Ron Paul belong to a party that rigs and steals elections? Because when you lie down with Republicans, you get up Republican.

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/nssg/

The CNN factor

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/awcmedia.htm#cnn

Aussies have some interesting stuff here

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/awc-chng.htm

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/nssg/

The CNN factor

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/awcmedia.htm#cnn

Aussies have some interesting stuff here

http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/awc-chng.htm

A Thesis : all 'Libertarians' are secret McCain supporters

Prove me wrong, dudes. I'm in no mood for trifling right now, because (a) HuffPost have a picture of John and Cindy McCain giving royal family type waves from the beer jet, and they both look to me like ALIENS, obviously goddam LIZARDS from ZETA RETICULI, and (b) I can't blog it because WordPress seems to be down.

-- Rowan Berkeley Saturday, May 10, 2008 08:32 PM"

The only difference between Republicans and "Libertarians" is that "Libertarians" are even more extreme right-wingers.

The problem after that is that "Libertarians" haven't a clue as to which end of the political spectrum is right-wing, and which left- (more accurately: they are unaware of the fact that there is a political spectrum). Apparently they buy into the lunatic fringe-JBL-Neo-Nazi lie that Hitler, being allegedly "National Socialist," was therefore "So-shul-ist," i.e., left-wing.

I feel a certain private irony when I think I'm being read as saying something that is the opposite of what, in talking about other topics, I've said very forcefully. This is not meant as a jab against you guys ... the 'opposite' is usually something I've argued elsewhere, in print or F2F, not here.

My feelings about Powell are an example. I've been caustic in talking about him for almost 20 years. People think Powell is a cryptoliberal, I say Are you effing kidding me? They express their admiration, I say, this is what it's come to, that this is the kind of guy we 'look up to'. I insist that the 'Powell Doctrine' was no such thing, that it was the 'Weinberger Doctrine', renamed to suit the personal advancement of one C. Powell. If Powell were the principled guy people think, then I would expect him to be the one in the Principals Meetings discussing torture to say, 'Why are we, the senior officials in this government, sitting here discussing torture?' and stop trying to rimlap his way into a more comfortable relationship with his boss.

I hate the guy, and something else I would personally add to the My Lai and DADT follies and his lies to the UN, is his substitution as CJCS of the 'Just Cause' Panama plan, which killed an extraordinary number of people for no good reason, for a much more nuanced and careful 'Blue Spoon' plan ... leaving aside the question of whether the invasion had anything to do with its purported justifications and whether it wasn't just another imperial knock-down (which I hope you won't call on me to defend, for the reasons I said above).

So I don't aim to praise, rehabilitate, or excuse Powell. What I do, though is admit a) I've never actually met the guy, b) I wasn't there during any of these latest deliberations he took part in, and c) since it's possible that I could let my animosity color my conclusions about what happened, I'd have to give some credence, with reservations, to any other reports that contained information I have no basis for impeaching. Likewise with the accounts of the truly odious and psychotic John Ashcroft, whom I believe really could have resisted signing off on those controversial memos in his hospital bed, and can believe so without having to back off on any of my loathing for the guy.

So, what I said was accurate, I think, that Bob Woodward suggests something about Powell in his books that might be true, though I'm not sure, and it's worth thinking about how other people (more worthy of such contemplation) might have been in a similar situation.

But don't get me started on Bob Woodward. :>