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Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:00 AM

How the military analyst program controlled news coverage: in the Pentagon's own words

"We develop a core group from within our media analyst list of those that we can count on to carry our water. They become the key go to guys for the networks and it begins to weed out the less reliably friendly analysts by the networks themselves."

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Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:25 PM

bop, bop, fizz, fizz, o what a relief it is. :)

Howdy do bop. Do you have any idea what Rowan Berkley wants to talk about? There is a fine line between Vonnegut and Mark Twain for goodness sakes. Heavens to betsy.

I hope Pedinska's garden grows luxuriantly (Also, I hope Richard has recovered his footing, so to speak, and is sound of hoof again. I mean't no offense about the Creation Museum tour... I lied - Also, my average bowling score is Not 300. another lie, and I apologize.).

For Wendell and bop and the blessed rain; 'O men! if ye doubt as to the resurrection ...thou hast seen the earth dried up and barren: but when We send down the rain upon it, it stirreth and swelleth, and groweth every kind of luxuriant herb.' (Quran, 22:5)

regards,

bah.

~ It's over the hill to grandma's house I go

Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:32 PM

If UT was a 101 Ancient Studies class... Maybe.... If there is any visible vanity..... o, no, not on mothers day! Maybe listen to Beethoven? It will not hurt.

Oh, IF, post~face-lift does not improve a public image,

Still.... Most readers will refuse to go nearby, but O Why?

Oh, "students" asking question in pig-Latin are still fakes.

A facial change will make a cosmetology student quacky.

Oh, a heartbroken troll is told, "You look just like ya` mom."

Are we/me/anybody @ focus.com,',' mom or off track today?

Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:43 PM

No, the liberal internationalists control the government who controls the media

Well, good morning, sleepy head. Another robot comes alive. Of course the U.S. government manipulates news media coverage. But this is intermediate-level stuff. From the beginning to this day, the intellectual and financial energy for the global communist revolution has come from wealthy western capitalists. These are the guys that manipulate everything, even persuading us to pay interest for exercising our sovereign right as a nation to issue money. The Federal Reserve is a union of private banks whose monopoly control of monetary policy is enforced by the U.S. government. These wealthy capitalists are not communists. They are international socialists. Their Bible is Plato's Republic. All power is exercised by an elite group of philosopher/kings, whose edicts are enforced by military/police. Everyone else is manager/workers. Having no political responsibility, they need no education beyond vocational training. Plato advised using every available means to destabilize society, clearing the way for the New World Order; and that is where the communists come in.

These same capitalists control the curriculum at Ivy League Universities, whose graduates control the news media, the Washington Bureaucracy, the CIA, etc. That is why none of you has the slightest idea what our American heritage is all about.

I am agnostic on the Iraq War. I defer to the President, and God might be telling him to do it. But the liberal Ivy Leaguers who control the State Department have been planning this war for 50 years. In the name of democracy, they are advancing the cause of international tyranny. What they want is for the UN to take charge of the operations in Iraq.

Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:50 PM

bah. Listen. ref a date with the cocktailhag Lady. There is no low far kielbasa.

Eat garlic for a good aphrodisiac breath on Mother's Day. Bah, no eat rain poodles for Mom Day dinner. Clean the humbug ears with a q-tip? Use a violin bow.

My mother in law is long dead. I bet she'd spell my name right.

I'd dump a spouse if she'd not allow me to stay here and UT blog.

Or, rather I'd rather have a good mate to keep me away from U.T.!

Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:53 PM

The rising cost of The Dick’s propaganda and M$M coercion success

AP WASHINGTON - Increasing numbers of U.S. troops have left the military with damaged bodies and minds, an ever-larger pool of disabled veterans that will cost the nation billions for decades to come — even as the total population of America's vets shrinks.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080511/ap_on_re_us/disabled_veterans

Sunday, May 11, 2008 01:01 PM

The duke 46?

You may get the third degree? A U.N. linguist wasn't always labeled a bitch? I hope not. Mom may declare, prior to being married to a GOP bamboozle, life was okay.

A auto mechanic, or a tricycle repairman, may have made a better match?

The politico gets the third degree from children, grandchildren, and everybody.

Sunday, May 11, 2008 01:03 PM

Then they -- and you -- don't "get it" --

". . . . For now, I'll simply note that the US military side of the argument isn't wholly devoid of evidence to support it. And that evidence has in turn been passed on to comprise somewhat of an article of faith in today's military- that the US press can't be automatically counted on for loyalty, discretion, or basic competence when covering a war fought by its own nation's people. . . ."

The media is NOT INTENDED to be "loyal" to the gov't, or even to the military. It is INTENDED to be loyal to the FACTS AND TRUTH.

Otherwise, you are insisting that the media be nothing more than a propaganda arm for gov't -- which is exactly the issue here -- regardless how subtly you are doing that. Insisting that the media in the US is to act exactly as did the media in the USSR.

". . . . As military professionals, they're determined to not allow a repeat of the Vietnam experience in terms of their relationship to the American media."

The only AMERICAN way for the "professional" military to alter their relationship to the media is not to alter the media -- the media isn't the problem simply becaue it is reporting the unvarnished facts -- but to alter their own behavior by not burning down innocent civilian's houses, by not committing atrocities/war crimes such as My Lai and Haditha.

"2) The US military is inculcated with the idea that duty to the directives of the President is their primary Constitutional duty, especially in wartime. . . ."

Then they are wrong, because the military's primary duty is to the Constitution, and the oath they take to protect and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States -- not to the gov't, not to the president, not to the president's "directives". It remains ILLEGAL under Nuremburg and the US military's UCMJ for the military to obey ILLEGAL orders, even when they come from such as the current unelected political appointee who falsely claims and pretends to be president.

"They're also trained to be absolutely one-pointed, focused, mission-driven. So they'll walk right up to whatever line they determine is proper in order to ensure the success of the mission."

In short: they determine for themselves where the "line" is -- ignoring THE LAW which draws the "line" and which they take an oath to protect and defend.

". . . . They aren't going to spend a lot of time consulting with lawyers in advance about what constitutes an overstepping of guidelines in terms of doing public advocacy to the media in regard to what they consider their duly ordered mission."

Their "duly ordered mission" is governed, at the very top, by the supreme law of the land. That supreme law is the Constitution, and their oath to protect and defend it -- not such as Bushit and his blatantly obvious criminal enterprise.

"If they're challenged by another institution of the Federal government, they'll put on their best loyal defense of their actions. But if they're admonished, they'll back off."

Only after getting CAUGHT doing that which is ILLEGAL. By contrast, the DOD's has its own legal department, and no few JAGs.

"It's both the strength and the weakness of the American civilian-controlled military that they tend to studiously avoid whys and wherefores."

False: the UCMJ is a pre-existing adumbration of the required "whys and wherefors".

"Basically, as long as there are institutions like elections and legislative and judicial review, they consider their orders from the commander-in-chief of a civilian-controlled government to be lawful, and their mission worthy and compelling. After that, "there is no 'try'"."

And yet they are "inculcated" during training in the basics of UCMJ and international law that, as example, torture is a war crime that cannot be excused or made legal, therefore it is ILLEGAL to do it, and ILLEGAL to obey ILLEGAL orders to do it.

"For me, the amazing thing about this war is . . . the level of dissent that has been expressed by military personnel, both prior to the Iraq invasion and continuing afterward- whether taking the form of open criticism (both publically and behind the scenes), or through more tacit moves like early retirements."

What worries me is that the dissent was NOT UNIVERSAL in the military. Our is to be "a system of laws, and of men [choosing to be disloyal to the Constitution, or choosing to be conveniently blind or indecisive]."

"-- cabdriver Saturday, May 10, 2008 07:46 AM"

This is not the time to be defending the military against its own actions in violation of everything they are taught from basic training on, beginning with that oath. Or for, in addition doing everything they can, in addition to illegally engaging in political activities, actively endeavoring to suppress contrary unvarnished facts because they expose the politics and lies in which the military is actively colluding, and which it is enthusiastically and actively advancing.

Seymour Hersh is not the problem: it was not he who commmitted, as example, the My Lai massacre.

If the US stands for "truth and justice," then its loyalty must be to truth and justice -- not to lies which advance agendas which are prohibited by truth and justice. Torture is a war crime even when a pretend-president orders it in a "directive".

How many in the military are whining about the media -- not because they've used torture, but because they've been exposed as using torture? How many are bashing the media -- not because the media committed the "Haditha Massacre," and but because the military committed the massacre, but because the massacre was exposed as having happened?

And where is the military and its oath in relation to that? Protecting the murderers by any deceitful means they can find, against both rule of law and oath.

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