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Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:00 AM

How the military analyst program controlled news coverage: in the Pentagon's own words

"We develop a core group from within our media analyst list of those that we can count on to carry our water. They become the key go to guys for the networks and it begins to weed out the less reliably friendly analysts by the networks themselves."

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Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:19 PM

@bucky1, please think before you post

While you have many good things to offer for our consideration, why do you have to be so inconsiderate and address Aycharych with pussy arch? That kind of accusation only sidetracks our important discussions and greatly irritates many who are disgusted by the way you have used pussy.

Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:21 PM

Jim White @ Crimes

Jesus.

Thanks Jim White.

Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:22 PM

@ rrheard

Shooter please name the tangible benefits "we the people" have reaped from the umpteen trillions spent on funding and using our standing military across foreign lands in the last 50 years?

Perhaps you should sit down. Comfy?
I agree with you.
It's why I've called for a return of all our troops around the world.(except for Iraq) We do not have the will to win, so why bother trying? Let the Koreas duke it out, let Israel conquer the Mideast, and let the Russians take over the Balkans again. It's not our business, and I'm more than happy to let the little brown peeps fend for themselves, while we take care of our own business.

The benefits of such a policy are profound: No more casualties, save enough to pay off all debt, have the love of the rest of the world for leaving them alone. I'm all for it.

PS. I usually play midweek. It's much less crowded.

Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:24 PM

shooter's so eager to make a point

(not to mention, change the subject..) that he can't even be bothered to read....

We expect man-made global warming to be superimposed on those natural variations; and this kind of research is important to make sure we don't get distracted from the longer term changes that will happen in the climate (as a result of greenhouse gas emissions)."

Of course anyone who's too stupid to get beyond binary thinking is incapable of even knowing what this paragraph means.

Warmimg or cooling? Anything beyond that is just confusion.

Thanks for the insight into the neanderthal brain there....

Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:26 PM

We do not have the will to win, so why bother trying?

Again....severely handicapped by binary reasoning.

Glenn should write a book on the subject.....oh wait - he did!

Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:27 PM

re: please think before you post

While you have many good things to offer for our consideration, why do you have to be so inconsiderate and address Aycharych with pussy arch? That kind of accusation only sidetracks our important discussions and greatly irritates many who are disgusted by the way you have used pussy.

-- Retired Military Patriot

Are you saying that the word "pussy" offends you and that I should have said, "its the teenage sex, arch"?

If using the word pussy offends you then I am sorry. I could have phrased it differently. But, if you read that as me calling arch himself a name then one of us needs English lessons as that was not the intention of the message.

So, which idea are you calling me out on?

Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:28 PM

@ quickstrategy

I'm furious, and take this personally. There's no small number of other ex-military people who will feel the same, and who are likely allies in whatever we want to do about this.

My thanks to you, RMP, Jkalos and GC for chiming in. This is how it must have felt in the old west when the cavalry rode to the aid of the 'damsel in distress'. I am touched. ;-}

On a more serious note, your collective opinions do carry weight of a different order because of your military service. They are respectfully, and greatly, appreciated.

Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:29 PM

bucky1

The rest care, but life itself is more interesting than a lot of things. For many young lads, the chasing of skirts is all important, for others it is fishing. For most it is raising a family and "fitting in" with their crowd.

I can't look at something happening and NOT wonder why it is happening the way it is.. When I've gone fishing I've wondered about how and why fish bite some bait and not others.

When I ask what seem to me to be perfectly natural questions out loud often even people who know me look at me like I've sprouted an extra eyeball in the middle of my forehead.

I did plenty of skirt chasing and at the same time wondered what made women tick.. The answers I eventually figured out to some of my questions greatly enhanced my success in chasing skirts.

I've raised a family already and I'm helping raise grandkids now. During the entire time I never stopped wondering about everything I looked at and everything I heard.

Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:33 PM

Bucky

I don't necessarily think you intended it in a derogatory manner, but the implication that all teenage obsessions about sex can be lumped under the term "pussy" does sort of leave out the 50% (or so) of us whose obsession was more inclined toward "pricks". ;-}

Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:36 PM

Paul Dirks

Thanks for the insight into the neanderthal brain there

You malign homo neandthalensis, they had a larger cranial capacity than homo sapiens sapiens and there is really no way of knowing for sure if they were more or less intelligent than our illustrious selves.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal

1200-1750 cm³ skull capacity (10% greater than modern human average)

It is believed that the population of Neanderthals was never much more than 10,000 individuals.

Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:36 PM

pedinska

do your comments make me feel touchy? touchy like I'd like to shake your hand!

Saturday, May 10, 2008 12:37 PM

[Sigh] Textbook example

Here's a perfect example of the absolutely disingenuous nature of Sharter28%. It quotes a purportedly supportive snippet of [whatever].

ROFLMAO. Perhaps you should consider that this bit....

According to those restrictions, "No part of any appropriation contained in this or any other Act shall be used for publicity or propaganda purposes within the United States not heretofore authorized by the Congress."

Then makes a flatly inaccurate assertion predicated upon the selected snippet.

...renders ANYONE getting federal money off limits from commenting on anything!

-- shooter242

Sharter conveniently omits the VERY NEXT PARAGRAPH of the piece it quoted, which goes on to state

As explained in a March 21, 2005 report by the Congressional Research Service, "publicity or propaganda" is defined by the U.S. Government Accountability Office (GAO) to mean either (1) self-aggrandizement by public officials, (2) purely partisan activity, or (3) "covert propaganda." By covert propaganda, GAO means information which originates from the government but is unattributed and made to appear as though it came from a third party.

These concerns about "covert propaganda" were also the basis for the GAO's strong standard for determining when government-funded video news releases are illegal:...

I point this out only as a prelude to issuing a mea culpa for my own error in drawing attention to its inane comments.

Object lesson: Ignore it it. It lies and it's stupid.

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