Letters to the Editor
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@Rowan
Re: fascism.
It depends on the working definition.
I offer this in case you missed it. It is a series done by David Neiwert. He's something of an expert.
Rush, Newspeakand Fascism: An exegesis
http://www.cursor.org/stories/fascismintroduction.php
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@ L.W.M. re. definitions of fascism
Thanks, that looks quite good. I am not too keen on Chip Berlet, or Martin Lee's "the Beast Reawakens," because you will find a cumulative blurring of fascism, nazism, anti-semitism, and anti-zionism in them, which seems to be coordinated with the ADL.
Now, the ADL under Abe Foxman has actually engaged in totalitarian thought control campaigns of its own, which go far beyond any legitimate program to prevent a rise of anti-Semitism, and indeed stand anti-fascist values on their head, such as when they coordinated with the South African secret police to bribe a San Francisco cop to steal police files on anti-zionist activists, for which they eventually admitted culpability and settled out of court on condition of non publicity. the go-to guy for this is Jeff Blankfort, who has archived a lot of it at
http://www.adlwatch.org/
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You are quite welcome, Rowan
I rarely do this, go back to an old thread after I am certain I have brought the wrath of the Pauliacs down upon me. The antiwar.com and LewRockwell.com crowd. I've heard it all before and the conspiracist cultural marxism rants from the likes of them and Pat Buchanan will begin again in earnest as soon as America reverses its current foreign policy course and they turn on the left again. But I am glad I did in this case. I just read your post:
Disaggregating the Ideas/People So Easily Named
http://letters.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/06/reid/permalink/9b5ed44261276f048aa653edb3421b78.html
I hope you stick around. You will teach me many new things.
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Good God Man!
I'm new to commenting here, and I read Glenn's exhortation the other day on the off-topic comment wars, but really Electro Robot - I have not seen a single mention of the word "Jew" (at all)in the 7 or 8 pages of letters I've read through and no disparaging uses over the entire list of comments that I scanned.
What exactly is wrong with you? What is your point? And I think someone else asked you before to give the rest of us your recommended online reading list (that would be blogs or news sites).
I did a little research and it looks as though you've published at least 20 letters today, throughout the course of the day. Again, what is your point?
And WHY must you conflate criticism of Israel, at least insofar as it is being discussed here in terms of AIPAC and the far right Israeli viewpoint that seems to dominate the discourse in Washington, and arguably leads us (that's the citizens of the U.S.) into war with anti-Semitism?
You do realize that this tactic not only makes you look insane and like a shill for the neocons, but may actually render you certifiably insane?
Further if I am correct, and my apologies for having to say this, but do you realize that Glenn is Jewish? (If I'm wrong, whoops - but it's not essential to my point anyway). What is his hidden agenda?
This'll be the first and last time that I take time to address you directly. But judging by the amount of time and imagination you apparently have on your hands, I'm certain you won't be going away any time soon.
Again, WHAT IS YOUR POINT?
Finally, and I want you to be completely honest with all of us: Are you on the AIPAC payroll, in any way shape or form?
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@ K. Trout
[to Electro SpamBot]: Are you on the AIPAC payroll, in any way shape or form?
No. It's Rev. 3.2_beta of Joseph Weizenbaum's famous "Eliza" program, cut-n-paste edited as such:
:1,$s/mother/Kill the Jooos, kill the Jooos! Smokestacks!/g
such that every time there's a lull in the conversation or it doens't know what to say, it interjects such random 'comments' to get things started again. Ignore it.
Cheers,
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Arne
Funny. OR........
Are Electro, Scooter, Norbitgeek, etc. all really the same person?
"Sybil" is what the wingnut blog comment crew try to invoke whenever they see more than one /quote unquote/ liberal presenting their views rationally and in the hopes of sparking a real debate or moving away from talking points.
We could use some rational commentary from another angle (specifically, the "right") other than outright denial or name calling. The lot we have here have reading comprehension issues, spelling problems, and are really quite unhinged. I think I read Glenn specifically call one of those aliases out the other day for being, and I quote, INSANE.
I think I just talked myself into agreeing with your theory. Only a bot could make such seemingly random, off base comments. Twenty times a day. Every day. And night. ;)
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Committed to an ally, yes. Unselfishly and unreasonably committed, no.
I understand the commitment to Israel as an ally since it is the single nation in the Middle East that is presumably loyal to the U.S. The reality is that Israel is loyal to Israel, first, last, and always. I find it difficult to understand why U.S. self-interest is joined at the hip of Israel's self-interest. Shouldn't U.S. interests come before that of Israel? Why is it in American interests to befriend Israel with billions of dollars of aid each year while spending virtually nothing on developing other mutually beneficial alliances in the Middle East.
Believing that Isreal's interests are more than self-interest is delusional. There wouldn't be a terrorist threat against the U.S. if it wisely placed its interests first, as well. If one needs proof that Israel considers its interests first, remember the navy ship named the Liberty, remember the incidents of Israeli spying on the U.S., think of a neocon who passed confidential U.S. information to AIPAC. Those are examples of Israel thinking of itself first. When will the U.S. begin operating in its interests first?
It's interesting that Michael Ledeen should coincidentally believe that Israel's enemies are also enemies of the U.S. The U.S. is not surrounded by enemies, yet, but if it takes the same posture as Israel, social exclusivity, it will be.