I've never seen Glenn be ambiguous about much of anything.

MAD implies trust. You trust your foe to not act in a manner that would harm himself.

Suicide bombers do worry about harming themselves.

Maybe the leaders of Iran will not mimic the suicide bombers that they brainwash, but there are other ways trust comes into play.

Assuming Iran develops a nuke, can we trust them to control what they have?. . .can we trust them to prevent others from using it?

It's not a pretty picture.

I don't trust Iran.

Enjoy your predictable outrage ... It is the "status quo" that is being defended here ... Israel is part of that "status quo" ... Israel is a "better," more reasonable, neighbor that the inevitable radical islamic state that might replace it.

Jmho.

Look on the bright side.

The State of Israel is the one thing that unites the Islamic world.

OTOH, there are running gun battlesin Beirut today (and yesterday) between the Sunnis and Shiite Hezbollah. The Army is trying to stay out of it.

You make a point of which I am not aware, about this sanitization of Bush Sr., as I have not seen the PBS show. But all of your suggestions seem plausible.

L.W.M. confirms my point about the mass media, who controls it, and how what is served to the public is determined by them. The owners of media decide what is news, and what isn't, and therefore determine what the people know. It is probably fair to say that most Americans do not realize that George Bush has recently admitted to being complicit in the commission of War Crimes, by international standards. It would not be in the media's interest to report this too heavily. People might start to question why no one was holding Bush to account.

The events of 9/11 are in the same black hole. If the people were aware that Bush had allowed or planned that tragedy, to allow him to take advantage of the generation of patriotic support and sympathy, that might be his undoing. The media see that this is the case. In general, they are corporations in bed with the elite. Therefore for them to report factually on this issue would be against their interests. No wonder there is no review of David Ray Griffins books, and no explanation as to why so many architects and engineers dispute the official story. Better to ignore than question. After all, questioning leads to facts, and facts tend to be unpleasant.

Many of us know the emperor has no clothes, and he knows it too. It is heartening to know that his future holds for him the prospect of someone giving him that tap on the shoulder, for the rest of his life. Pinochet got his. George will too...

If you're going to post that, then I'm going to post my list of historic Zionist quotes:

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."

-- David Ben-Gurion, Prime Minister of Israel, 1949-1954, 1955-1963 to the General Staff

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population."

-- David Ben-Gurion, Prime Minister of Israel, 1949-1954,1955-1963, to the General Staff.

"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"

-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."

-- David Ben Gurion, Prime Minister of Israel, 1949-1954, 1955-1963

"There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist."

-- Golda Meir, Prime Minister of Israel 1969 - 1974

Let me know when you're ready for Part 2.

Is it my fault you comments have more logical and factual holes in them than swiss cheese?

I'm just thankful his unitard doesn't have holes as big or frequent.

It does, however, have a whiff of cheese about it, don't you think? ;-}

Particularly those that have oil or some other commodity worthy of plunder.

Yes. It didn't start with bananas and won't end with oil.

an image Hillary wearing a one piece in some shade of purple.

Aacgk! You're just trying to avenge Pedinska, aren't you? Where's that lye ... must ... cleanse ... eyes ...

I admit that I did not learn any of that stuff in high school, and I was bored sh*tless in history (unlike later). Educators must hate the subject of history, since they always seem to give it to Coach to teach. (my school, anyway)

But it's funny, people will show great interest in the details of 'their' history as well as 'ours', eat them up if they're presented well, with humanity, personal relevance, and good storytelling. Adults, anyway.

So what's our problem?

Visceral, wasn't it? :>

Positively projectile vomit-inducing.

It does not make me hate Jews...

It does make me question the policies of my government, the government of the United States, and the State of Israel. It should make ay decent human being do the same.

"Another Israeli historian, Uri Milstein, said there were many incidents in the 1967 war in which Egyptian soldiers were killed by Israeli troops after they had raised their hands in surrender.

"It was not an official policy, but there was an atmosphere that it was okay to do it," Milstein said. "Some commanders decided to do it; others refused. But everyone knew about it."

The following is from an article ("HISTORIAN ALLEGES POW DEATHS IN 1956, 1967") posted by the Jewish Telegraph Agency on August 17, 1995:

"An Israeli military historian has said he knew of hundreds of Egyptian prisoners of war who were killed during the 1967 Six-Day War by Israel Defense Force troops, including a unit headed by the current Israeli housing minister. Military historian Aryeh Yitzhaki of Bar-Illan University told Israel Radio on Wednesday that the killings involved a crack unit led by now Housing Minister Binyamin Ben-Eliezer. Yitzhaki said the executions of 300 to 400 Egyptian commandos in El Arish was the worse case he knew, given that many of the Egyptians had surrendered. They were killed by members of the Shaked commando unit under the command of Ben-Eliezer, a lieutenant colonel at the time, he said. Ben-Eliezer said he was unaware of any prisoner killings.

"Referring to the Six-Day War, Yitzhaki said not only were the executions known, but a report he prepared in 1968 on the deaths was not released under instructions from higher authorities. Responding to the reports, Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin said he thought such incidents were exceptions to the norm and that they should be condemned by all."

The following is from a front page article ("DEBATE TAINTING IMAGE OF PURITY WRENCHES ISRAELIS: A MORE OPEN SOCIETY TAKES UP KILLING OF POWS DURING WARS") in The Washington Post on August 19, 1995:

"This week, as more soldiers came forward to say they saw fellow Israelis kill unarmed enemies in decades past, a long-suppressed public reckoning began. The stakes are profound for an army whose "purity of arms" has been the core of its self-image through five wars. . . . Also Wednesday, military historian Arye Yitzhaki of Bar Ilan University accused a storied reconnaissance unit, known as Shaked (Almond), of killing hundreds of Egyptians who had abandoned their weapons and fled into the desert in the 1967 Middle East war. . . . One day after Yitzhaki's charge came a first-person account by Gabi Brun of Yedioth Aharonoth, the country's most widely read tabloid. He wrote of watching Israeli troops execute five Egyptian prisoners in the Sinai Desert town of El Arish in 1967. The first of the five, he wrote, was forced to dig the grave. Each of them in turn was shot dead in it. "For a Jew to read this description, I don't know what to say," said left-wing activist Uri Avinery, who is demanding prosecution of Israeli war criminals. "This is the typical SS technique. This is a Nazi story in the most literal sense of the word." . . . . [Ariel] Sharon, interviewed at home today, [described] the sudden debate of old war crimes as "a kind of national suicide. Israel doesn't need this, and no one can preach to us about it - no one," he said. "The Israeli armed forces are a model and symbol of high moral values . . . We speak about an event that took place 40 years ago. Now, when all of us live in a different condition, it's very hard sitting in armchairs and air-conditioned rooms to try and understand what happened on those battlefields. . . . I'm not justifying things like that." . . . . Rabin, too, described this week's traumatic debate as akin to 'national suicide.'"

http://fas.org/sgp/eprint/bamford.html

Just an excerpt of Bamford's response to FAS.