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The Democratic Senate leader continually claims that Joe Lieberman "votes with us on everything except the war." What about eavesdropping, habeas corpus, telecom amnesty and torture?
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  • @Ben Alpers

    On the other hand, the Republican Party, which has always had more party discipline than the Democrats, has, in the last decade and a half or so, dramatically increased its party discipline, which significantly raises the costs of the Democrats' lack of party discipline.

    In relative terms, yes the Republicans march in lockstep much more effectively than Democrats. This is even more true since being demoted to the minority. But, don't forget privatization of SS, immigration reform, and Jim Jeffords either.

  • Lieberman and Clinton: the end justifies the means

    I'm from Connecticut and what Lieberman did here is disgusting. The fact that Reid (and Clinton) are willing to talk with him or have anything to do with him shows how desperate they are, pandering for the Jewish vote and maybe Reid too by association.

    I'm Jewish and there is no doubt in my mind that Lieberman found his voice/issue with the Iraq war and Iran and he's painting himself as the lone protector of Israel at all costs just like Hillary is painting herself as the lone protector of all things American at all costs.

    The fact that Reid and Pelosi could not get together and impeach Bush/Cheney says worlds about their inability to lead. The fact that Reid didn't toss Leiberman out of the Democratic party shows how spineless he is.

    I am embarrassed to be from Connecticut when Lieberman's name comes up, but hey, we did vote for Obama.

  • Reid is disgusting

    He was absolutely appalling on Stewart last night. And I'm sorry Jon, but if you don't stop having these fascists on your show and bending over backwards to be nice to them, I'm going to skip over you and go straight to Colbert.

  • Really, how low does Joe have to go ?

    Apart from his appalling votes on the Iraq War, warantless wiretapping, telecom amnesty, habeas corpus, torture, Gonzales and Mukasey, Lieberman is actively campaigning for John McCain! He's signalled his willingness to address the Republican Convention! In a recent tv interview he said of Obama:

    "I'd hesitate (!) to say he's a Marxist, but his views are far to the left of mine and I think mainstream America's."

    (In my experience, when people use the words "I'd hesitate to say", it's invariably followed by a slur they've been dying to make...)

    Of course, in the real world, it's Lieberman's views that are, by a wide margin, unrepresentative of mainstream America's, according to virtually all available polling data. Lieberman, a notorious psephology junkie, cannot possibly be unaware of this fact. Yet he's willing to vote and lie for Republican policies that neither Democrats or mainstream Americans support. What's worse than his mendacious support for Bush, McCain & Republican policy, is his eagerness to enunciate one of the crucial forthcoming right wing smears on Obama - that he's an extremist, just short of a Marxist, far, far to the left of middle America. The fact that this same smear was used against he and Gore in 2000, Kerry/Edwards in 2004 and virtually every viable Democratic Presidential candidate for the past 20 years, doesn't seem to bother him in the least. I imagine it's not long before we hear Lieberman questioning Obama's patriotism, masculinity, "toughness", elitism, and Lieberman's own Jewishness notwithstanding, Obama's Christianity. Perhaps by then the other shoe might just drop for Harry, that Lieberman never "votes with us" on anything.

    I understand the pragmatic reason's for Reid not wanting Lieberman to formally jump ship, but declaring him onboard for "everything except the war" is an insult to Democrats and an affront to the truth. Caught between the rock of Liberman's treachery and the hard place of a slender majority, Reid's silence would be considerably preferable to lies.

  • A weak Reid

    After a few minutes of Reid last night, I turned off the Daily

    Show and went to bed.

    I keep asking my wife how someone like Reid ever got chosen for the leadership position, and she has no answer for me.

  • Slightly OT, but...

    ...I heard about this on Bill Press' show this morning:

    http://fixthefec.org/

    Heads up, people...

  • If the bloggers don't call for removing Lieberman and Reid, who will?

    No deed by a Republican President is heinous enough to cause impeachment, so why should a Democratic leader pay for supporting the heinous policies of the administration?

  • Joe Lieberman, Reid and the Jewish Caucus

    Did anyone mention the Jewish Caucus? This is the elephant in the room. The Israel cheerleaders who hold America captive Ah! I forget you can not criticized then, for you become anti-Semite! Go to the list of cheerleaders and you find the same pattern when it comes to war...Oops,"the war" defined that way encompasses most matters of significance".

    Let me see where I can find a distraction, with the next runaway bride.

  • voted

    The Liebercritter "voted" with the Dem's in the organization of the Senate, giving the democrats the Senate committee chairs and Reid the Leadership Office, and power of assignment on the rest of the Senate offices. You know, the big stuff.

    Harry simply misspoke when he said "votes".

  • Reid is

    LIEberman.So are all of the other Pols who refuse to impeach Bushit and his cronies.

  • DanJoanQuizOz @ 5:28.

    Well. You do quiz us from Australia. That helps the USA. Thanks.

    The Edna St. Vincent Millay quote comes to memory for a book?

    Oz~ A book title : The 110 plus '1' Way to Make a World so Ill.

    Millay wrote : A person who publishes a book willfully appears,

    before the populace with their pants down below their knees.

    apologies to Edna St. Vincent Millay. I'd invite Edna to a party.

    ~

    Recipes. Cheshire Pot Pie. A pint of white wine, a skinned cat,

    peppermint, guts, grizzle, fur, claws, teeth, tale, and stir well.

    When the putrid odor is horrid, serve up at Capital Hill. Scum.

    ~

    Blood Pudding. Add the innocent's slaughtered blood to milk.

    Mince the hog meat. Add hormone mad cows hoofs. O Lard!

    Boil in a Capital Hill Black Pot for 101 hours until we're all ill.

    gads.

    grunt.

    Thomas Paine was correct. If possums are ill, no let 'um govern.

    I never even knew we had a National Chocolate Day. I feel better.

    Eat green peas before the bunny rabbit or groundhog devours.

    Baboozelery! Yes.

  • "They're non-issues." for Reid

    Subordination is the defining characteristic of the Democratic leadership. Reid is a willing subject of Republican power, of tired media narratives and of Joe Lieberman.

    The Democrats decided a long time ago that they would subordinate themselves to Lieberman. All the other stuff - "he votes with us", "he's my friend" - is just cover for the fact that they've accepted a(nother) fear-based relationship in which they have ceded their power and ours.

    No subject, no person who gives away their power, can admit that to themselves. That's why Reid can make his claim while glossing over those major votes.

    Those are the votes which show where Lieberman really stands, and where the Democrats stand in relation to him.

    Even worse, those are the high profile issues which stir the passions of the Democratic "base", further highlighting just how little their "friend" Lieberman has in common with what they at least pretend to care about. But rather than Lieberman being held to account for his votes, it's easier for Reid and others in the party to hold the base and especially the "bloggers" in contempt; people with passion and principle expose them - just by honest expression - for their lack of those qualities.

    "The Good Fight" - the title reeks of subconscious overcompensation.