Thank you.

WTF? Here's more

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/5/143339/5685/3/509508

How does HRC not = McWorse at this point?

Somebody drive a stake through her heart!

You lost me. Are you saying that anything America does is by definition moral, whilst other nations doing the same things we do is by definition immoral?

I, for one, don't buy in to that notion.

When he was merely a lad, Ahmed Chalabi confessed to his dad that it was he who chopped down the cherry tree.

You dare question this man's truthiness?

Are you saying that anything America does is by definition moral, whilst other nations doing the same things we do is by definition immoral?

No. I'm not a clockwork orange.

WTF? Here's more

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/5/5/143339/5685/3/509508

How does HRC not = McWorse at this point?

Somebody drive a stake through her heart!

-- bamage

You can not say it enough. Keep it up.

A Clinton/McCain ticket would be the war monger's bipartisan wet dream.

... at one of my favorite blogs!

http://www.theartofthepossible.net/

A very good interview. Worth your time to read.

Keller's policy re anonymous sourcing seems reasonable enough, doesn't it? It's interesting to compare/contrast what goes on under his guidance with what Hersh does, though. Hersh also uses a lot of unnamed sources; but he also goes to great lengths to qualify their positions, finds multiple sources that corroborate, or have opposing information, and adds people who will go on the record, even if only to say yeah, that's likely, or it's more likely something else.

That takes a lot more legwork than what Gordon turned in today. It takes access to a larger number of sources who are ... main point ... at pay grades beneath the 'high level government sources' that (some) reporters would rather deal with, because it brings them in closer proximity to power (and saves them some time). Kids and whores, as the saying used to go ...

Even if you aren't intentionally a government shill (or alternatively, even if you absolutely one hundred percent believe what's in it), you'd have to have a sense, looking at your piece (if it's Gordon's), that it's rather thinly sourced relative to the consequences of what you're reporting. Hersh clearly internalized that ethic; Gordon didn't.

Oh wait. They do.

"militants from the Lebanese group Hezbollah have been training Iraqi militia fighters at a camp near Tehran," and that "the training, the Americans say, is carried out at several camps near Tehran that are overseen by the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Command, and the instruction is carried out by militants from Hezbollah, which has long been supported by the Quds Force."

I don't know that it really would be suicide for Israeli Jews to cede majority status in their own country to the Palestinians. But I'm confident that no plausible scenario would persuade them to attempt the experiment.

True. But for the reason I've stated, in part. When you're on top, it's hard to give that status up, no matter how 'compelling' the moral argument for such.

Cheers,

Could you please just STFU about your own private nightmares about smokestacks and such? You want real Jew-haters, go visit Stormfront (or even some of the other, more pedestrian, RW sites). I'd suggest that Glenn ban you if you feel compelled -- against all good reason and decorum -- to insert your "Kill the Jooz" post du jour completely uninvited (and unwarranted).

Now to this:

Except that according the UN the term diaspora as applied to Palestinians has a very distinct meaning

It means every self defined Palestinian everywhere on the planet forever unto infinity. Literally yes it does. 10 x 10 generations from now, anyone can claim they are a Palestinian refugee, even if their grandparents grandparents grandparents grandparents went to Canada became citizens, lost their Arab name, forgot their ancestry, didn't know jack from squat.

Hmmmmm, I seem to recall that Israel has a policy that anyone who is a "Jew" (and they have courts to decide said "Jewishness"), no matter how apostate and no matter their love for bacon cheeseburgers, can immigrate to Israel. Is this a bad policy as regards Palestinians but a good one as regards Jews? Hell, I think they even let Samuel Sheinbein stay. Please explain.

Cheers,

I don't think so. I think the idea is to just seriously f@ck it up. You have to remember, America hasn't 'won' any wars since it was a member of the willing in 1945. All the other stuff since were just adventures (or misadventures) . . . you know, throwing dwarves against walls just to prove we can do it and that other folks know that we can do it. Rattling sabres is just a part of the game . . .

you ordered me to STFU. sorry, no comment.

Well done, sir.

Refugees? really. I am a refugee. Interesting. Well why don't the liberals love me, I'm a victim. Why don't the liberals fight to re establish my rights in Poland? Why don't the liberals fight to reestablish Jewish rights in Arab countries?

Why is that? Do you have a feeling about that or just a URL?

I figured, I guess the dinner bell rang.

Shame, it usually works with my cousin's three-year-old....

I noticed exactly the same thing that Glenn is talking about (in his Update Two) and I left a note at Abu Muqawama saying:

"I find your rhetorical method so peculiar here that, unless it is subject to instant bloggy-right, I think I shall paste it over to my place. What you do is, first, create a spurious air of scepticism, with the long paragraph about echo chambers, then blithely discount your own scepticism and say you think it’s probably pretty much true regardless. The elegance of this swerve is presumably supposed to dispense you from any responsibility for due diligence regarding the claim. There’s a formula here — I’ve seen this done before."

"Dr. iRack" came over and let off a smoke bomb or two, natch.

"militants from the Lebanese group Hezbollah have been training Iraqi militia fighters at a camp near Tehran," and that "the training, the Americans say, is carried out at several camps near Tehran that are overseen by the Quds Force of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Command, and the instruction is carried out by militants from Hezbollah, which has long been supported by the Quds Force."

I have no idea if this is true but "Iraqi militia fighters" already get the best training possible in Iraq. It is one giant "live fire exercise" going up against American troops, weaponry and tactics. It doesn't get any better than that. One reason it might make sense is that after subjecting the IDF to a strategic defeat and tactical draw in Lebanon two years ago, Hezbollah has some experience worth imparting.