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Monday, May 5, 2008 12:00 AM

Who needs Dana Perino when you have the NYT's Michael Gordon?

Yet again, Judy Miller's former co-reporter mindlessly repeats provocative, war-provoking government claims.

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Tuesday, May 6, 2008 09:28 AM

@pow wow

Looks like it's on:

The Judiciary Committee's subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, chaired by Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.), has authorized a subpoena for Addington.

http://tinyurl.com/3rxy98

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 08:50 AM

Thanks for the post Glenn

I had totally missed the NY Times story from Gordon. There's really no excuse for it, it's kind of impossible to read the situation as being anything but he's doing his job, which his editors are fine with. He couldn't get a passing grade at J-school with a story like that; it's impossible that they don't understand how badly done it is.

On another topic entirely, maybe the Iran situation is why Petreaus got his recent promotion.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 08:46 AM

'No sources' imperial shilling

Glenn, I couldn't agree with you more about Michael Gordon and the NYTimes.

When I read this 'reporting' I immediately was struck by two things:

1. A total lack of any named sources.

2. A massive level of pro-war shilling and propaganda for the ruling-elite 'corporatist Empire' that hides behind the facade of this 'Vichy' government.

The Emperor wears no clothes, and yet the Empire can do no wrong.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 07:01 AM

I get the feeling...

...that 'we the people' are pretty helpless in all of this Bushian/GOP mess.

I'm, a firm believer in the idea that people don't create war governments do, and that is what it is doing. Somehow I think people are doomed. Right wing government and right wing religion, including my own, is/are doing all of the war creating. 'We the people' seem quite helpless to stop it. Bush's list of the ten countries that he/they are going to attack is what we are all doomed to have foisted upon us.

With the seeming imminence of the Iran war I just don't see anyway around it.

And did we all see the George H.W. Bush puff piece on PBS last night. Why were we treated to all of that 'wonderfulness' (sarcasm). Exactly why were we treated to all of that right wing Bush crap. Are they starting up the sanitizing machine for George H.W. And for what purpose. Are 'we the people' being prepared for the announcement that McCain 's veep will be Jeb Bush. So they need to begin now the sanitizing of the Bush family name. Or will Condi be the veep for McCain, both of whom are GOP failures, just like George W. Will Condi be the Cheney to McCain's George W. Which would then set her up for her own presidency. and the endless continuation of the GOP ME wars for oil and colonialism/ imperialism.

Is there no end to what evil these people are capable of doing. Chickenhawks they are while others keep

doing the dying.

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 05:49 AM

SO??

All the Bush/Cheney Crime Cartel needs now is another $3 Trillion Dollars and a Mandatory Draft of every citizen between the ages of 18 to 55 to continue phase 3 of

"Operation Kill Everyone".

More Rev Wright stories, please!!!

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 02:24 AM

Top Secret

Government intelligence services, sworn to secrecy, warned us that Iran is already fighting against America.

This warning should be believed because the government is extremely reluctant for it to be true, so if the government finds something it doesn't want to be true, and tells you anyway, then it proves that it's true.

They are being honest in spite of their own agenda.

/sarcasm.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:46 PM

How is this surprising?

Not surprising, but remove the context of Obama, for no one cares what he thinks in this matter.

Monday, May 5, 2008 11:45 PM

Philippe Sands Testimony and HJC subpoena authorizations Tuesday

A heads-up for people interested in hearing Congressional testimony from Philippe Sands, the British author of The Torture Team, and from National Lawyers' Guild President Marjorie Cohn. The House Judiciary Committee's Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Subcommittee has the following agenda Tuesday morning:

Tuesday 05/06/2008 - 10:00 AM

2141 Rayburn House Office Building

Hearing on: From the Department of Justice to Guantanamo Bay: Administration Lawyers and Administration Interrogation Rules, Part I

Witness List:

~Philippe Sands, QC

Professor of Law, University College London

Barrister, Matrix Chambers

~Marjorie Cohn

Professor of Law, Thomas Jefferson School of Law

President, National Lawyers Guild

~David B. Rivkin, Jr.

Partner, Baker & Hostetler, LLP

~David J. Luban

Professor of Law, Georgetown University Law Center

It appears that C-SPAN will not be airing this important hearing (although they may record it for later broadcast), but there will be a live streaming webcast available via the committee's website:

http://judiciary.house.gov/schedule.aspx

Immediately preceding that hearing is this official business, concerning two other witnesses who were asked, but declined, to attend Tuesday's session to testify to our representatives about actions taken in our name by appointees of our Executive Branch of government:

Tuesday 05/06/2008 - 9:30 AM

2141 Rayburn House Office Building

Meeting to consider: To consider a resolution authorizing the Chairman of the Committee to issue subpoenas to David Addington and John C. Yoo

Monday, May 5, 2008 10:30 PM

quickstrategy

The airmen at Barksdale only passed on the information that the nukes had been flown illegally across America to their base. I think a process of deduction led those who heard about it to conclude that Dick Vader was up to his old tricks again. It's hard to imagine who else would have had the power or the motivation to move them. Bush being strictly a puppet and a PR man. This story was also covered in international news reports but ran the official line that it was an 'error' - which it clearly wasn't. Perhaps you can track down the 'Military Times'. I'm starting to think the US Air Force is actually afraid of its own government and what they're capable of doing.

Monday, May 5, 2008 09:41 PM

@ Electro SpamBot

I am a refugee....

Refugee from reality don't count.

... Interesting....

Not for us. Your hallucinations are visible only to you.

... Well why don't the liberals love me, I'm a victim.

You misspelled "a$$hole". Which then explains it.

On a more serious note, there's plenty of people here far more evocative of sympathy than you. But then again, you knew that. You're not looking for sympathy, and bygawd, you'll get what you're asking for. Why you're asking is beyond me, though.

Cheers,

Monday, May 5, 2008 09:18 PM

So why again am I not an eternal refugee?

Cmon Paul, man up and answer a question one time instead of hurling insults.

Monday, May 5, 2008 08:42 PM

Dismaying and Ordinary, in a good way....

Che's last post, revealing Keller's plainly stated and obvious rejection of Gordon's brand of "reporting," gives me some hope. And continuing to expose it as such is the only thing we have, and I'll take it. As I read the story in the paper, primed for it by Glenn's H/T, I was still astonished at the thinness of the sourcing, and the numbingly bland delivery of such twaddle, as though it bore any resemblance to the truth.

I agree with the numerous posters who ask, with a red print left over from slapping their foreheads, "Does this guy have an EDITOR?" For the love of God, I hope not. I was in journalism school many moons ago, and such a story would have been greeted with universal derision, if only because it bore the telltale signs of spurious, lame, and desperate invention. Writing anything, even of no great import, requires some kind of sourcing to give a semblance of that hallowed "objectivity," if nothing else. Whereas something jotted down from the whispers of known liars, using the same tactics to sell the same thing that made an ass of you before, is so suicidally self-discrediting that said "reporter" should really start filling out applications at Home Depot.

Bahhummingbug.... I'm in love with bebop, too, but he knows that already. Being preternaturally promiscuous, however, I fell for you the rest of the way when you wrote, "If I could find my gun, I'd shoot Hell off hinges." The delicious blend of archaic and trashy tipped me over. Glad you checked back in, sober to boot.

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