Look at that face.

That Carney is a soft and pudgy Republican if I have ever seen one.

They can have it.

Glenn I'm glad you stated here clearly, and not for the first time, that these guys vote this way because they really think that way. There is no need to search for motives they just believe we're rubes and that they know best. Disgusting.

Thank you Glenn for your response. Please don't take my concerns to mean that I think he should be allowed to retain his seat, simply that I'm not sure that he will waver in his apparent commitment to see telecom immunity enacted. I've been faxing, calling, and e-mailing all of the blue dogs, Hoyer, Pelosi, etc. and will continue to do so, Carney included.

I'm assuming that any compromise bill would require another vote in the Senate. What are the chances of a Dodd filibuster?

(noted, original comment s.b. "somehow" not "someone")

beat me to it. And it's well worth repeating.

What's the point of having a Dem win if the Dem isn't demonstrably different from the Pub anyway? At least with a Pub, you know how he or she is going to stand, but a Blue Dog is just as likely to stab the party leaders -- and voters -- in the back as not. I don't want to turn this into a Hillary-v-Obama issue, but that's at the crux of why Clinton doesn't have my support: If I wanted a Pub in office, I'd vote for one, not a Dem who votes like one.

-- senorplaid Friday, May 2, 2008 07:49 AM

Said the slave about the master. Overlord boots licked for free in New Jersey?

I didn't know the Constitution and the Bill of Rights got trumped by "Trust Us! We're the Government! We Know Better!"

Carney is a somewhat conservative Democrat, which is not surprising given the nature of the district. For example, while opposing proposals to privatize Social Security, he said he is open to the idea of adding private accounts in addition to (not at the expense of) traditional defined benefits.[7][8][9]. He supports federal investment in stem cell research[10], and is an advocate of universal healthcare[11]. He supports gun rights, does not favor abortion (but supports family planning and "comprehensive reproductive healthcare"), and opposes gay marriage[12]. He supports estate tax reduction.[13][14]

During the campaign, Carney raised money with a wide-variety of supporters including Sen. Barack Obama, Sen Joe Biden[15], Rep. Jay Inslee[16], Rep. Jack Murtha[17], and Richard Perle, a leading Bush Administration advocate of war with Iraq who more recently has criticized the decision to go to war[18] Douglas Feith, another Pentagon hawk, congratulated Carney on Election Night.[19]

Carney did make change of direction in Iraq policy a cornerstone of his campaign, often choosing to decry the Bush Administration's failure to properly support the military or to properly plan for the war.[20] However, Carney is not enthusiastic about investigations of pre-war intelligence. “The more energy spent on answering Congressional investigations, the less time will be spent on winning the war,” he said.[21] From 2002 to 2004, Carney served as a counterterrorism analyst for the Bush administration, under Douglas Feith in the Office of Special Plans, developing links between al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein.[22]

On May 3, 2007, Carney voted with 166 Republicans against the Local Law Enforcement Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2007 , even though the Pennsylvania delegation (including 4 Republicans) voted 14-4 in favor.

In 2008 he was instrumental in allowing Republicans to pass the FISA bill granting telecommunications companies immunity from prosecution for their involvement in warrantless wiretapping of American citizens, including his sending a letter to Speaker Pelosi encouraging her not to fight the bill.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Carney

Hackett looks like a Mittens clone

http://www.chrishackettforcongress.com/Home.html

I just gave to the ad campaign via ActBlue and I also called Carney's office and, very politely, told the staffer that I see Carney is planning to undo the House Dems' stand against the Rockefeller FISA bill. I told him that I had given money to various groups that had helped fund Carney's campaign in 2006 (I think 21st Century Dems and other organizations who call for money contributed to him, but I'm not sure). I told him that if Carney does this, I will give money to his Republican opponent, despite being a rabid Democrat, because there is no point in having a Democrat in that seat if he's going to do this. He thanked me for my call.

To catch "mistakes" in Glenn's writing requires a degree of anality. I am too busy digesting the cerebral and passionate sense of his writing to notice anything else!

Thanks Glenn, keep up the great work.

Blanket and retroactive immunity for felonious and unconstitutional invasions of privacy is an affront to the Constitution of the United States, an attack upon the Rule of Law (without which this country cannot function as a democracy), and really really stupid.

I'm shocked, shocked to learn that the apparent victory over this evil plan might be subjected to a disingenuous attack by those disgruntled by their recent failure to obtain passage of the Bush immunity plan. ["Your chips, sir."] Oh, thank you very much.

Target the legislators who try to sneak immunity back into any discussion of FISA renewal! Blue Dog, Methodist, Guamanian... this is about the Constitution and the oath of office. I wish a lot of things, including stem cell development of implantable spines for Democratic legislators -- but at the moment, donating to a dedicated ad campaign to shed the light of day on those who would still try to sneak immunity back into FISA is the best political dollar that can be spent, IMO.

I took the approach with the nice young lady who answered the phone that I thought reports I was reading in the media were mistaken and that Representative Hoyer could not possibly be working in favor of retroactive immunity. She agreed that he has been a leader against immunity and said what he is trying to achieve now is a FISA bill that can be passed and does not contain blanket retroactive immunity. I told her I did not want an end to surveillance, that all I want is for surveillance to be Constitutional and legal. I suggested that Hoyer put out a statement clarifying his stand and what he is trying to accomplish. She thanked me for that. I honestly don't know what to believe on this one.

I also called Carney's office and told them I wanted to remind them of the nice fund we have raised to run advertisements against him should he vote in favor of the discharge petition and/or the Senate FISA bill.