Letters to the Editor
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Blue dogs are better than Republicans
You are walking a tightrope in campaigning against blue dogs.
Is it better to have a Republican who always votes against progressive measures and in favor of Bush measures? At the moment the realistic choices in many districts in the South are a blue dog or a Republican. Isn't it better to keep local Democratic organizations alive? Without successful candidates, they tend to wither away.
I hope the campaign is directed towards getting the blue dogs to change their minds (actually votes), rather than destroying their reputations in their home districts.
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The Math
It boggles the mind to think what possible advantage could be gained by giving a president with a 71% disapproval rating and some bloated, despised monopolies a gift, against the will of everyone who vaguely understands the issue. Even bribery oughtn't be enough. The telcos are smart enough not to even try flipping Democratic seats to Republican in this cycle, and they aren't even making a serious effort at PR or lobbying.
Glenn's hypothesis that some blue dogs just seem to have a hankering for immunity, darn it, is about the only explanation that holds water. Carney and his ilk deserve defeat not for corruption or weakness, but flat-out stupidity.
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Since when are these not the same thing?
I hope the campaign is directed towards getting the blue dogs to change their minds (actually votes), rather than destroying their reputations in their home districts.
No one gets to be a successful politician except by recognizing and responding to public pressure. In the end, if you're only worried about what team someone is playing for rather than the effect of their actual actions then you have already given up and might as well stay home.
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The mind control programming of the rubes is VERY good
Hmm. Supposedly there are two parties, yet every single thing they do is in lockstep, even if theuy have to go back and fix any supposed differences later.
Yet, the rubes persist in their vehemence that there are still two distinct parties.
Nobody lifts a finger to question the hegemony, it just rolls over everything and transforms the US into an unrecognizable lump of a proto third world nation.
WOW, the CIA has made great strides in perfecting the mind control programming of you empty vessels who are supposedly my peers in this society.
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skeptonomist
The ads are to inform the Blue Dogs' constituencies of their capitulation, so that hopefully voters will apply political pressure to their representatives. As GG mentioned, the ads are in place so that the Blue Dogs realize there is a political cost to cooperating with the GOP.
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@GG re: Hoyer
Glenn, Hoyer may not be vulnerable, but is there any leverage to be gained by slamming him w/ the "telco immunity will so outrage a substantial minority of the Democratic-leaning voters that Democrats might well lose the General election" argument?
And Aych, if HRC is coronated, I'm going to vote for every Dem I can (that won't be many, I'm in TX) EXCEPT for her. But maybe I'm not average.
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brightstar why don't you either go away
or STFU. Yeah, genius, you're the only one in here who ever recognizes the similarity between the two choices we're currently stuck with. And we're all empty vessels, not worthy of being called your peers.
Retard.
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You want EFFECTIVE changes to government?
The only effective way I have heard to change our government is to oust all of the incumbent members of congress and scare the rest.
The hammer is "www.goooh.com", they seem to have the answer to this problem of ZERO government representation of the people.
Please look over their site and tell others about it.
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The Obamaniacs are quick to blame "Billary"
The Obamaniacs are already preemptively blaming any FISA backtracking on Hillary. They are saying that she is so evil that she will do anything to destroy this country. Talk about an over reactive bunch of loons. They blame every new crisis on "Shillary's" all-encompassing evil.
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The dubious wisdom of shooter242.
They know something you don't.
Very likely, but equally likely its of no relevance to the issue at hand.
There is also the pressure of acutally being responsible for something rather than just yapping at people's ankles.
Something you would know nothing of, eh?
But as always I don't expect that kind of imagination from people convinced they are right with religious impenetrability.
Something you could teach college courses on, eh? I mean, when have you gotten something completely, stunningly, mind-numbingly wrong?
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Questions
Why indeed is Hoyer connecting with Rockefeller on this issue? Has he stated his motivations?
I thought this whole FISA issue was being battered around by the House Judiciary Committee as an issue of constitutional interpretaion. Hoyer is not a member of that committee - why is he now spearheading this bill in the House?
Like many readers here, I follow politics pretty closely and have a fairly good grasp of the major issues. But I still have a hard time figuring out the machinations and undertakings of Congress. It doesn't surprise me that the Average Joe in this country stays completely apathetic about what their congresspeople are doing. Hell, a lot of people can't even name who they are.
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GG
This might be worth commenting on also. I was surprised you didn't mention it. Or did I miss it?
http://www.newsweek.com/id/134930/output/print
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$25 more in the kitty
Thank you for being so active on this topic, and helping drive this campaign so that C. Carney KNOWS we are watching and participating. It may not change his vote, but the larger implications will be heard through the caucus.
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It takes a Carney...
...to run a sideshow.
Let's get this geek out of Congress and back into his cage where he belongs -- with a bottle of Thunderbird and a live chicken.
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Awklib
Thank you for being so active on this topic, and helping drive this campaign so that C. Carney KNOWS we are watching and participating. It may not change his vote, but the larger implications will be heard through the caucus.
A month ago, we received word from him that he wanted to talk to us and convince us not to do the ad campaign. He had others try to talk to us as well. We told him we'd be happy to talk to him, but the only way to stop the ad campaign would be to announce his opposition to telecom amnesty and the Rockefeller bill.
Things got a little delayed because there was nothing happening on the FISA front, so there was a lack of urgency. But now that it's being revitalized, and more money is being raised for this campaign against him (already another $3K in the first hour after posting this), and his face is being splattered all over the place -- trust me, he is hearing about it, and so is Hoyer and the DCCC and friends.
They have small districts with small media buys. A $50K ad campaign (or even more, hopefully) -- with well-produced TV ads -- can make a big, big splash, especially if it's done the right way.